Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
People here complaining about the stats need to realize that this stats are perfectly valid once you take into consideration the other i210 options.

The "Bad" relics are only so because these classes already have good Upgraded Eso/Gordian weapon.

BLM's get CRIT/DET on their relic, because their alternatives already have CRIT/SS and DET/SS combo.
NIN's get SS/DET on their Relic, because their alternatives already have CRIT/DET and CRIT/SS.
DRG's get SS/DET on their relic, because therr alternatives already have CRIT/DET and CRIT/SS.
PLD already has a CRIT/DET option.
SMN same deal
etc

On the other hand, classes with shitty Gordian/Eso get amazing Relics. WAR, DRK and SCH come to mind.
Copying a reply I made on a BLM thread.

There is no reason we shouldn't be allowed to have the stats we want. If SE didn't want us to have the stats we wanted, they wouldn't have allowed us to have the stats we wanted in 2.x to begin with. You can't go ahead and give a player an ability for his relic and strip this ability from the player right away. We didn't got this weapon for the first 5-6 months of 3.x

Relic is meant to be an alternative and this is fine. Except, like I previously mentioned, we didn't have a relic for the first 5-6 months. It is likely when 3.2 is release a new 220 weapons with a new currency will be here. We'll have a new Primal with iLevel 215 weapon. Its already gonna be obsolete lol.

The message I got and I am sure most players got when SE introduce relics and allowed us to customize it was this relic weapon, the only purple item in the game represents you and walks with you the entire gameplay. You are not forced to mix-max a relic. You can go ahead and put 40% Crit, 30% Speed and 30% Det if you want. People that say Relic weapons aren't meant to be BiS are correct. You are wrong to think Relic isn't meant to be built like you wish and represent you. Be a Parry WHM for the cares I have!

This is another failure SE made imho. Another failure for all the failures they've made since 3.x. They drastically changed the gameplay and mentality of the game between 2.x and 3.x and its hurting to see that.