Patch 3.15 Notes Discussion

**AskaRay** · 12-16-2015 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by ToppeHatte

I could either keep my Zeta I spent months building, or I could simply view Anima as the next step for my relic weapon and relinquish it with no issue just like I did for all the previous relic steps up to Zodiac.

Hrm.

Hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

This is sorta what I'm conflicted about.
Ultimately, the Zetas are a complete weapon, storyline, what have you. It's over. The Anima weapons are a completely different thing, thus it wouldn't be that half-finished barely made of wood relic it was I started a year ago.
However, the fact that this brand new weapon, a new story, may essentially be made of the essence of your old weapon is intriguing, like it gets to be reborn or reincarnated.
"See? I'm useful again now."

Sorry but I guess it's just a difference of opinion and how much a person values little pixels or not.

Oh well.

**Morningstar1337** · 12-16-2015 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Felis

The grind in ARR relic was nerfed down. Look at 1.0 relic guides to see the not nerfed grind of the first relic.

Yeah, but I have the feeling the grind would be even more tedious than even the unerfed grind (take a look at what became of the once casual activity of Crafting and find out why)

crazy prediction time

Beastmen currencies are needed, you nee 10 stacks of 99 each for their step
Radiant crystal drop rates are even lower then unerfed atma. We're talking even lower than Coffin Lid/Wind-Up Succubus
Need Thordian EX for Astral Node and Alexander: Gordeas (all 4) for the Umbral nodes, maybe Ravana and Brismark EX as well
You need all the new crafts to get them and each of mats will take 2000 red scripts...each
Oh and you have to Run Coil, CT, and Mhach raids...synched
the reward? not an i200 weapon, not an i210 weapon, but a i250 weapon! (By the time anyone even gets their relic Patch 3.2 will be out and with it Alexander part two which will also have i250 gear, ilevel subject to increase depending on if too many people fail to get it before the 3rd raid tier hits)

Okay now that I posted the worse case scenario, at least take solace in the fact that SE isn't THAT crazy. BTW are we gonna expect full patch notes soon or is this it?

**Tilgung** · 12-16-2015 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Laerad3993

Except the prior steps transferred stat to the next weapon once you finished Sphere Scrolls. This doesn't.

Says who?
/10char

**Laerad3993** · 12-16-2015 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Tilgung

Says who?
/10char

Seeing how the only perk we get is a skippable step over those that haven't done it, I think it's obvious.

**Silverbane** · 12-16-2015 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Kedo

Crappy stats... it's an irrelevant weapon at 60, a glamour piece at that point there is your difference, all that other stuff doesn't matter anymore gil spent/time.

And the Mona Lisa is no better than a good copy of it. Worse, really, because it's so old that it takes a lot of work to keep it nice looking.

**ToppeHatte** · 12-16-2015 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by AskaRay

This is sorta what I'm conflicted about.
Ultimately, the Zetas are a complete weapon, storyline, what have you. It's over. The Anima weapons are a completely different thing, thus it wouldn't be that half-finished barely made of wood relic it was I started a year ago.
However, the fact that this brand new weapon, a new story, may essentially be made of the essence of your old weapon is intriguing, like it gets to be reborn or reincarnated.
"See? I'm useful again now."

Sorry but I guess it's just a difference of opinion and how much a person values little pixels or not.

Oh well.

I don't think its a matter of how much a person values it, but how they choose to value it. Like for example, I think its a giant waste and "disrespectful" to all the time I put into it to just let it sit there entirely useless instead of using it to aid my progression, because spending the time to level the weapon was always about that uphill climb in value to begin with.

Originally Posted by Laerad3993

Seeing how the only perk we get is a skippable step over those that haven't done it, I think it's obvious.

For all you know, the first step is focused on building up the secondary steps of the new relic, and turning in your old one transfers over the stats. Conjecture to prove a point doesn't get you anywhere.

**Morningstar1337** · 12-16-2015 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Tilgung

Says who?

says the fact that the zeta isn't needed for the anima...and PS3 limitations

Serious answer: The Anima weapon can be attained without the Zeta, ergo the weapon can (and mostly likely will) be earned with default stats. Also the base relic also had set stats, unless there is gonna be a custom stat option, but even then it is unlikely that it would retain the customized stats of the previous relic

**Temaridesertstorm** · 12-16-2015 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Laerad3993

Seeing how the only perk we get is a skippable step over those that haven't done it, I think it's obvious.

I see to recall that there was mention that the personalized stats would carry over, or that the stats would be slightly better with a trade-in. Not quoting, just mentioning what I recall.

**Laerad3993** · 12-16-2015 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by ToppeHatte

I don't think its a matter of how much a person values it, but how they choose to value it. Like for example, I think its a giant waste and "disrespectful" to all the time I put into it to just let it sit there entirely useless instead of using it to aid my progression, because spending the time to level the weapon was always about that uphill climb in value to begin with.

For all you know, the first step is focused on building up the secondary steps of the new relic, and turning in your old one transfers over the stats. Conjecture to prove a point doesn't get you anywhere.

You sure like to throw that word around.

As if you are any more right than I am. Rofl.

**Laerad3993** · 12-16-2015 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Temaridesertstorm

I see to recall that there was mention that the personalized stats would carry over, or that the stats would be slightly better with a trade-in. Not quoting, just mentioning what I recall.

Gonna need source or I call BS. I've seen no live letter stating this.

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