Patch 3.15 Notes Discussion

**Blood-Aki** · 12-16-2015 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Laerad3993

The 300+ hours is the value. A replica won't replace that. Neither will a trash skip.

The hours you spent on it won't magically make it match the current ilvl meta, Glamour is glamour, No amount of gill or hours you spent on it will change that. Just something you'll have to get over, The zeta serve the same use as the replicas, Only for glamour.

**Astral145** · 12-16-2015 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Laerad3993

That's nice. Way to belittle others.

Relic Zeta.
The difference being I actually put time and effort, 7m, 300+ hours, and leveled a stupid tank to not sit in queue for an hour and a half as dps to get my item.

Zeta Replica
Crappy stats and 61gil.

Yeah, there's NO difference.

Here is the difference nobody can buy a replica zeta of any kind unless you once own a zeta and its very specific too. Lets say you owned a BLM zeta weapon and trade it in to skip a step you cant turn around and go purchase a WAR zeta replica, you can only purchase a BLM Zeta replica.

Originally Posted by Zhexos

We are planning to implement the ability to purchase a replica of your completed Zeta weapon.

I think you are confusing the value of memories vs bits in a PC game. You can still get a replica which says a lot because in most mmo's you can't trade in anything for an upgrade let alone purchase a replica. So please place more value in the memories you have of creating the Zeta than bits of information on a screen. No matter how you look at it that replica zeta holds as much value as the actual Zeta you hold in your inventory. Being able to skip a step is more than enough + the ability to purchase a replica of the zeta you earned... Its a win win.

**silentwindfr** · 12-16-2015 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber

I'm gonna take a guess but I think the relics 3.15 final form will be only il205 until later patches at least.

will be stupid, eso take 3 week for be get and it's i200.... who gonna do a long and grindy quest for get a boost of 5 ilevel? more important with the possible add later of the upgrade of the eso throught void ark.

more important, a lot... most of the community simply don't care of the savage raid and want to have something worth it to do. until the 3.2...
some people love raid, fine, but since SE refuse to give us a true alternative to the raid as end game at least let the other get a good item throught them hard work. (especially if they have a step a la atma).

**Laerad3993** · 12-16-2015 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

The hours you spent on it won't magically make it match the current ilvl meta, Glamour is glamour, No amount of gill or hours you spent on it will change that. Just something you'll have to get over, The zeta serve the same use as the replicas, Only for glamour.

Fair enough. Though I'm more worried about the tradeoff than anything else. I don't know why glamour keeps coming into this.

**Pison** · 12-16-2015 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Laerad3993

Fair enough. Though I'm more worried about the tradeoff than anything else. I don't know why glamour keeps coming into this.

Because glamour is the true end game.

**silentwindfr** · 12-16-2015 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Pison

Because glamour is the true end game.

more is the only true end game hahaha

**Blood-Aki** · 12-16-2015 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Laerad3993

Fair enough. Though I'm more worried about the tradeoff than anything else. I don't know why glamour keeps coming into this.

You don't HAVE to trade it in, it's just an option, if you want to keep it that badly you can keep it, you'll just have to suffer through the 1st step.

**BreathlessTao** · 12-16-2015 04:09 PM

The whole Zeta replica thing makes me bang my head against the wall so damn much.

Is it good? That they thought of including that as an option, that we get that? Yes, of course, it's great.

At the same time though, I can't help seeing it this way: here's a perfect example that just screams "IF WE HAD A GLAMOUR LOG THIS WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE IN THE FIRST PLACE". And it just makes me rage like a lunatic.

I know, I know, beating a dead horse. But imo it's a dead horse that's worth beating, and hey the dead are known to come to life sometimes.

**Twilite** · 12-16-2015 04:12 PM

Disappointing....

**Astral145** · 12-16-2015 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

The whole Zeta replica thing makes me bang my head against the wall so damn much.

Is it good? That they thought of including that as an option, that we get that? Yes, of course, it's great.

At the same time though, I can't help seeing it this way: here's a perfect example that just screams "IF WE HAD A GLAMOUR LOG THIS WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE IN THE FIRST PLACE". And it just makes me rage like a lunatic.

I know, I know, beating a dead horse. But imo it's a dead horse that's worth beating, and hey the dead are known to come to life sometimes.

Agreed if DCUO a F2P mmo can give us glamour logs and create any style you want from any style in the game no matter the job you play FOR FREE (NO IN GAME GIL REQUIRED) then why cant SE get off that wacky ban wagon of there's and just implement a style (glamour) tab?

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