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  1. #31
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    Gunspec's Avatar
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    I main a healer and do nothing but heal. If I wanted to DPS I would play a DPS class, I chose a healer to heal and keep people alive not DPS.

    Kick me if you want but my role is to keep you alive and that is it.


    Slyphie, is it you? Oh my god, it's been so long since I saw you during the conjurer quest line, how have you been?
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  2. #32
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    I main a healer and do nothing but heal. If I wanted to DPS I would play a DPS class, I chose a healer to heal and keep people alive not DPS.

    Kick me if you want but my role is to keep you alive and that is it.
    One way to keep people alive is to kill the thing that's causing the damage in the first place.
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  3. #33
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    I main a healer and do nothing but heal. If I wanted to DPS I would play a DPS class, I chose a healer to heal and keep people alive not DPS.

    Kick me if you want but my role is to keep you alive and that is it.
    >*Looking at the main class*
    > is SCH

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  4. #34
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    One way to keep people alive is to kill the thing that's causing the damage in the first place.
    There are two to four dedicated slots for just that.

    Back in the days, we used to call them damagedealers. I think nowadays they are just called bad tanks/healers. We've long since changed from Trinity to a handicapped Duality.
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  5. #35
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    There are two to four dedicated slots for just that.

    Back in the days, we used to call them damagedealers. I think nowadays they are just called bad tanks/healers. We've long since changed from Trinity to a handicapped Duality.
    I don't really care either way if a healer helps DPS or not, but my point was that the extra damage does help drop the mobs faster which in turn helps the group survive. As annoying as it is to see lazy DPS, it can also be annoying to see a healer that just stands there and tosses occasional heals just to "keep people alive". If you're really invested in the group''s survival then there are more ways to help than just doing the very basic function of your job - and that applies to everyone, not just healers.
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  6. #36
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    Sileas Goode
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    So I was the only one raising an eyebrow from the get go when people cheered for static one way game play and then see the same group of people claim my bux my way? Huh.
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    Last edited by Gardes; 12-15-2015 at 08:27 PM.

  7. #37
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Are you serious? I hope not, because if you are... I don't want to be harsh but you are bad at your job.
    Is she? The game never tells you that being a healer = dps/healer hybrid. She probaly picked a healer class and expected to only heal and lets be honest, majority of us picked the healer classes to heal, the dps is a extra. A extra that did not show up, untill we were geared up and were speed runing dungeons mid 2.0.

    I love that we have the option to dps as a healer, I love doing alot of dps on my tanks and I am the dps that casts Eye For Eye and Virus. I believe that using all the abilities that you have to support the group is something everyone should do, but this is how I play and does not mean that it is the correct one.

    The way I see it:
    Tanks need to keep agro and use defensive skills.
    DPS need to do the most damage that they can and use their dps buff skills (many do not use this, why?)
    Healers keep everyone alive, raise the dead and make sure the buffs are up.

    Aslong players are doing these things, they are doing their job, in my opinion. Everything else is extra. That DPS that uses Virus or Eye For Eye or helps healing when the Healer is having troubles keeping everyone alive is a amazing player. The Tanks that contributes by doing alot of damage, they are amazing players. The Healers that are able to switch between healing and dealing damage, are amazing players.

    Bixillarla might not be taking full adventage of her skills, but this does not mean that she is not doing her job. Lets not forget prior to 3.0 not being able to do speed runs meant you as a player were not doing your job. Untill SE comes here and says that Healers NEED to do DPS, I reckon Bixillarla is doing her job correctly.
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  8. #38
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    Jamillion's Avatar
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 60
    I kept running into the same worthless bard in A4 nm yesterday. If it weren't for the fact that mechanics weren't being followed and we abandoned in two of the runs I saw him in I would have dismissed him. As a single out of practice ninja I should never be doing 31 percent of the damage in an 8-man raid. It's sickening.
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  9. #39
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    DDs being lazy has been a thing since Labyrinth. Early PvP the same when people were just trying to lazy themselves the war ponies. Not much you can do save to /votekick afk. But I've never understood the whole push that you're not doing your job unless you're trying to fill two different roles. Tanks being called out for not DD'ing, DDs for not tanking or healers for not DD'ing. If you really want a DD that can also heal then wouldn't that be a Summoner? I mean, Summoners have almost half of a Scholar's primary abilities; Physick, Reincarnate and the job stone secret trait Combat Raise. We don't have Red Mage so that's not an option, though no telling how that's going to actually be in XIV. Point is, the roles are pretty clearly defined. The only Jobs that defy their role are Bard and Machinist, both being support DDs. That's it. Healers heal, DDs deal damage, tanks tank. Anything more is icing and entirely dependent on the individual player.
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  10. #40
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    Damian Corvus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    I do see very often healers who only do just that. Really irritates me and its only cus as a healer I always attack and heal.
    Well, to be fair, healers only healing don't bother me at all, as long as they fulfill their primary role, I'm fine with it. Same goes for every other role as well. If tanks keep aggro and DPS do damage, I'm fine with them doing only the task they signed up for.

    Let's face it here, 4man content is not challenging enough to throw a tantrum at a healer who doesn't attack, at a tank not maximizing his damage or at a summoner not using virus. Would it go faster if everyone contributed at their best? Of course it would, but it is unrealistic to expect that from every random people.

    As for the OP's topic, it sucks, and I usually type something in party chat when I see that kind of stuff happening. Most of the time I get flamed and it ends in them being kicked. Otherwise, I just leave.
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