Thread: The game is more dead than it was pre-3.1

Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

OK, you've posted more or less this at least twice today. So I'll ask, where are you seeing this evidence of mass server transfers?

Most of my server's top raiding guilds are gone now. I think all but one or two of the several we had during ARR either left or transferred (most of them to Gilgamesh, from what I've been able to gather). And when the entire FCs didn't go, prominent members among the raiding talent went by themselves looking for a raiding community better suited to Savage. That's only one server but many smaller servers seem to have experienced similar emigration.

Of course I am the minority and don't feel the same way the OP does. I think the expansion is OK for the most part, the story though is getting a little silly(2.0-2.55 was very powerful, dark and serious). In this generation though, players these days get bored of the same game pretty quickly and tend to take breaks to play something else for awhile.

Verminion simply wasn't a home run piece of content popularity-wise. It's a pretty large chunk of development resources wasted in that regard.

Originally Posted by CGMidlander

Verminion simply wasn't a home run piece of content popularity-wise. It's a pretty large chunk of development resources wasted in that regard.

Who didn't see that one coming?? I'm sure there are a few people who love playing an RTS mini-game in an MMO...I am not one of those people and apparently neither are most FF14 players. Had it been Pokemon style like pet battles in WoW, I might have actually tried it for fun...maybe.

I think the fundamental problem with 3.1 is the five month delay. While not an entirely large patch regardless, this fact was further compounded by many twitting their thumbs in monotonous 'anticipation', only to discover the "big update" amounted to a grind fest dungeon and a mini game no one actually wanted. Frankly, I find it baffling the sheer amount of time they dedicated to Lords of Verminion, especially given the minimalist additions elsewhere.

Unfortunately, the larger issue runs completely contradictory to Yoshi's vision: game difficulty. Very little content lasts long enough to keep people hungry. They need to either find ways to tune old content, if re-running it is their intended direction, or establish an actual midcore scene. It's not exactly reassuring to hear they don't want to offer fights comparable to Thordan EX's difficulty. Imagine if all the Primals got a lvl60 overhaul, a full new arsenal and were thus vaulted to Thordan EX? It would keep people busy. Instead, the devs seem resolved to release easier content that far too many end up blowing past.

That all being said, do I think the game is dying? Not even remotely. Much as we many fancy believing otherwise, the forum represents only a small fraction of players. People seem more inclined to congregate to certain servers, or are exclusively focusing on their own groups. But I sincerely doubt the population is dwindling. I suppose that too could be argued as a problem, considering it does not promote much motivation for the devs to change their current paradigm.

Originally Posted by Ayerinn

Who didn't see that one coming?? I'm sure there are a few people who love playing an RTS mini-game in an MMO...I am not one of those people and apparently neither are most FF14 players. Had it been Pokemon style like pet battles in WoW, I might have actually tried it for fun...maybe.

I was actually really excited about LoV. I really wanted to jump in as a minion collector. But it is so convoluted and the tutorial loses a lot of people from the start. I was pretty let down honestly. I was expecting something along the lines of the old FF and Dragon Warrior games. Just a party of a few minions with different skills in a turn-based battle system. My first play, the tutorial was so confusing and not easy with a PS4 controller, I walked away telling myself I'll come back and try it again later when I'm done catching up with raids and all. But to be honest I may not.