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    Please Add Healing Achievements

    One of the things I really hate about PvP is the fact there is only achievements for kills. This results in people playing more dps roles and less healing, which can be annoying because it either forces someone to heal who doesn't want to or you just don't have healers and get wrekt. Please add healing rewards or some sort of assist system to allow healers points toward kills.
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    You must've missed out of the 8-man WHM Cleric Stance Holy days

    I miss Cleric Stance...

    How do you suggest they add one that's fair and not just "Oh you overhealed someone who got a kill? Here's a gold star"
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    Quote Originally Posted by UlricCraft View Post
    You must've missed out of the 8-man WHM Cleric Stance Holy days

    I miss Cleric Stance...

    How do you suggest they add one that's fair and not just "Oh you overhealed someone who got a kill? Here's a gold star"
    X amount of wins where you spend X% of the match as healer is probably the least gameable way to do it
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    Survive x amount of lbs
    Migrate a total of (insert figure) dmg while under attunement

    After all healers are the tanks.

    Healing and raising achievements are just open to abuse, medica II gg wp
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    Last edited by Stupiduglytaru; 12-14-2015 at 09:48 PM.

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    Could also have do X amount of healing ex: 1 billion total healing, not including overheals. Shields and stoneskins count as much as the damage they mitigate.

    You could make it like kills with different tiers that have different titles...

    ex: 1 million, 10 million, 50 million, 100 million, 500 million, 1 billion

    1 million heals is on the upper end of what most people do in a game and that includes overheals, so you're looking at something like 2000+ games or so for the 1 billion title. The only way to really farm it is to get locked into a long deadlocked battle for a long time, but there it's kind of encouraging you to stick with your group and heal people.

    I support the idea of healer achievements, literally every solo queue game I do I end up going healer because I know it'll be needed the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blubbers View Post
    You could make it like kills with different tiers that have different titles
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    The only way to really farm it is to get locked into a long deadlocked battle for a long time, but there it's kind of encouraging you to stick with your group and heal people.
    The only problem I have with this way of doing it is that any reasonable number for WHM/AST is completely unreasonable for Scholar. Adding in shields helps, but Medica II / Diurnal Helios are way more healing than Scholar can ever hope to put out while focused on their job.

    I think my personal healing record in a match is a bit over 550k, and that's with 4 LBs. I've seen White Mages end with more than that without even trying, and well over 1 mil when they're trying as hard as that 550k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyani View Post
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    He mentions not including overheals, so the number at the end of the match wouldn't reflect the actual amount healed.

    A SCH/AST therefore would beat the WHM due to instant-cast heals beating the WHMs regens that 90% of the time overheal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UlricCraft View Post
    A SCH/AST therefore would beat the WHM due to instant-cast heals beating the WHMs regens that 90% of the time overheal.
    Scholar's focus is still very strongly biased toward single targets, though - as powerful as Scholar's instant heals are, the passive healing from WD/Medica II/Benefic Helios adds up fast in the presence of light AoE damage. In my experience, WHM and Diurnal wind up with significantly more real healing than Scholar/Noct just from healing people from 90% to full repeatedly.

    Factor in how SCH wants to be played (very high % Adlo, vit and/or Field Commander gear) and I don't think it's hard to see how that might be the case
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    Last edited by Kyani; 12-15-2015 at 08:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyani View Post
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    I hear you, it would be a little easier for a WHM/AST then scholar, but I don't think the difference would be that huge (maybe ~30% more games or so for SCH). The big numbers you see WHM with at the end of matches are mostly from overheals, and a significant proportion of heals actually come from healer LB which all healers benefit from equally. As WHM I often keep medica 2 and regens up even when full hp pre-preemptively and these count towards the stats at the end but I'd argue they should be excluded towards a cheevo. Also almost all healers I know run VIT/Field Commander (ast,whm,sch) so everyone has this disadvantage.

    The main thing though is it's relatively simple, better than nothing, and you have the same issue with # of kills. For example, when I go paladin I'm generally not pulling as many kills as my friends who go SMN or WAR, but even if I'm just chipping away at the kill cheevo, at least I feel like I'm getting something out of each match vs. the maybe 1 kill I get as healer.
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    I'm a strong independant healer that dont need no man achievement
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