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    found one mention of this by SE: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1013009

    Q15: Will we ever be able to transfer item/gil between characters on the same account and World?

    A15: We currently have no plans to implement this feature do to various reason such as preventing RMT from abusing the feature.
    so could be money, could be RMT. wish they would talk to us again about this since it's been over two years, and obviously this restriction hasn't hindered RMT significantly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelan View Post
    found one mention of this by SE: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1013009



    so could be money, could be RMT. wish they would talk to us again about this since it's been over two years, and obviously this restriction hasn't hindered RMT significantly
    Well they obviously aren't going to say its for selling retainers....That would be business suicide to admit you want to make extra money by purposely restricting stuff. As far as combating RMT, look at WoW. How often do you get blasted in that game by RMT? Next to 0....just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    Well they obviously aren't going to say its for selling retainers....That would be business suicide to admit you want to make extra money by purposely restricting stuff.
    right, but silence is tantamount to admitting it's about selling retainers at this point. they could at least make up something somewhat believable after two years
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelan View Post
    so could be money, could be RMT. wish they would talk to us again about this since it's been over two years, and obviously this restriction hasn't hindered RMT significantly
    You can't really say that it "obviously hasn't hindered RMT significantly". There's no proof one way or the other. Yes they're still active, but there's no way to prove that they aren't less active than they would have been without the measures SE's taken already. RMT and all the spam and other bullshit that goes with it is just an unfortunate fact of life for a lot of games. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    You can't really say that it hasn't hindered RMT significantly. Yes they're still active, but there's no way to prove that they aren't less active than they would have been without the measures SE's taken already. RMT and all the spam and other bullshit that goes with it is just an unfortunate fact of life for a lot of games. :/
    i can tho... i mean, they can easily set up an fc for the chars on teh same account and keep the fc chest open for transfers. this is easy to do. it's only inconvenient for regular players because they need to have permission in their fc to do so, otherwise they're stuck looking for a third party
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    You can't really say that it hasn't hindered RMT significantly. Yes they're still active, but there's no way to prove that they aren't less active than they would have been without the measures SE's taken already. RMT and all the spam and other bullshit that goes with it is just an unfortunate fact of life for a lot of games. :/
    I think the point OP is trying to make is that several other games handle RMT situations with more success (i.e. GW2/WoW, you'll rarely get in-game RMT notices in those games and they have populations equal to or more than this game currently). Moves like these are amateur if it was solely done for the responsive purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    You can't really say that it "obviously hasn't hindered RMT significantly". There's no proof one way or the other. Yes they're still active, but there's no way to prove that they aren't less active than they would have been without the measures SE's taken already. RMT and all the spam and other bullshit that goes with it is just an unfortunate fact of life for a lot of games. :/
    Other games don't seem to have nearly the problem that FFXIV does though.

    I played five years of FFXI, followed by five years of WoW, and got less RMT-related interactions in that entire span than I get within twenty minutes of logging on to FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibi View Post
    Other games don't seem to have nearly the problem that FFXIV does though.

    I played five years of FFXI, followed by five years of WoW, and got less RMT-related interactions in that entire span than I get within twenty minutes of logging on to FFXIV.
    You know. XI used to have the same amount of rmt spam at one point. I wonder what they did to control it because it suddenly died off after a period. They were like really bad in XI though for a while, shouts/tells/everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    You know. XI used to have the same amount of rmt spam at one point. I wonder what they did to control it because it suddenly died off after a period. They were like really bad in XI though for a while, shouts/tells/everything.
    There was a HUGE gilseller site that ran dry when SE implemented large restrictions on the amount of gil traded in all forms in the game. This combined with mass changes to HNM/NM stuff(RMT was hording spawns and camping EVERYTHING 24/7, etc) had hurt RMT very badly and they retaliated with several DDoS attacks. That task force team was also decently sized. Eventually RMT began given up as their "supply lines" were severed. Oh man, I remember it all, RMT used to MPK whole shells that were camping(this lead to SE implementing measures to address that, hence you can't "train" mobs into players anymore). You name it, they done it/tried it.

    Before that, the RMT pretty much owned every server's economy for a number of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    There was a HUGE gilseller site that ran dry when SE implemented large restrictions on the amount of gil traded in all forms in the game. This combined with mass changes to HNM/NM stuff(RMT was hording spawns and camping EVERYTHING 24/7, etc) had hurt RMT very badly and they retaliated with several DDoS attacks. That task force team was also decently sized. Eventually RMT began given up as their "supply lines" were severed. Oh man, I remember it all, RMT used to MPK whole shells that were camping(this lead to SE implementing measures to address that, hence you can't "train" mobs into players anymore). You name it, they done it/tried it.

    Before that, the RMT pretty much owned every server's economy for a number of years.

    Lol it honestly sounds like a more entertaining game than what we have now in XIV when you put it like that.
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