Thoughts on how to improve the game

[Moqi]

I'm just gonna list the reasons why I left and I what they should do if they want me back.

1) Remove token caps and lockouts. This is not a facebook game! All they do is slow down the very few people who would farm content to death in a week, that's it. For everybody else, it means that we have no way of catching up whenever we have a bit more free time. This game is supposed to be casual friendly but its mechanics are anything but that. There's not going to be a mass unsubbing if you let people get their gear whenever they want because it still requires time and almost no one is going to deprive themselves of sleep and food to get it in a day.

2) More midcore content. It's all either too easy or too difficult (and requires a static). Not much else to say. I'm talking about EX Primals difficulty.

3) Ease on the grinds. Some grind are just there to be grindy and it's so annoying because most of the time it's something you only do because of what comes after (which is fun). But if it gets too grindy, it's not worth it anymore because at the end of the day it's still just a game and there are plenty of fun games outside. So balance your stuff. I am talking about Gold Saucer (especially triple triads) or end game crafting/gathering and especially...

4) ..glamour. Let us glamour any piece from any class, it's a stupid restriction that doesn't even apply to everyone since a lot of DoM is not even DoM locked. And a shirt is just a shirt. Why does it requries millions and countless horus to obtain... see above. If something as insignificant as a shirt is too hard to get, it's not worth it anymore. You don't want your whole game to be like this.

5) More horizontal progression. This means get rid of most ilvls (Void Ark, Raids and token gear and crafted gear+materias should be all the same ilvl so you can mix and match) and give some secondary traits to gear that affect your skills. Raising the ilvls only means slowing us down because we gotta grind again before we attempt stuff, and for that, see above.

6) This is more of a summary of a lot of things I said above, but let us use all classes! What's the point in leveling them if we cannot use them because the gear comes out faster than we can obtain it? By the time I have my whm all geared up the ilvl is raised. Maybe I can manage to half gear another class but that's it. Everything is left behind and by the time I get to them I have new tokens to get to gear my whm again. It makes it all feel pointless and not worth it.

It's like SE fears that we're going to unsub because there is nothing left for us to do if they removed the lockouts, but the way they put them, we have nothing else to do because we are limited to one class, and what we can with that class is limited by the lockouts themselves. You know what I'm gonna do if I gear the whm in a week? I'm gonna gear my brd, and then use it on content, and then level up my ninja with a friend who's leveling a tank. There are so many things we could do if SE would just let us.

[Chayala]

A different cap from different sources. Perhaps 450 from instances/roulettes (To keep people interested in them as a whole). 300-400 from doing small raids(Because they give higher item levels to begin with), and then further separate it into larger raid content. This way if you did absolutely everything you coudl get a far larger amount, which would be more time put in and spread out. This is just thrown out numbers, but if you split them up rather than the 450 we have right now, but we might be able to scrape together 1200 or so if you are willing to do multiple avenues of attack rather than just spam dungeons. This way they can ensure that there are people wanting to do ALL parts of the game rather than doing the most efficent way to cap stones and then saying "Done" for the week.

[Moqi]

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Oh I see now thanks. To me that would still have the same problem though. Honestly just making dungeon drops relevant would go a big way towards solving most of the problems I have with the game. If they were tuned for, say, ilvl190 and dropped ilvl210 uncapped and unlocked you'd have more midcore content and ways to properly gear all your classes and use them for raids. You could have unlimited "plain" 210 gear in midcore, interesting dungeons while raids and token gear would have different perks and trait that would make it more desirable but not necessary to do any content with any class.

[KitingGenbu]

Oh I see now thanks. To me that would still have the same problem though. Honestly just making dungeon drops relevant would go a big way towards solving most of the problems I have with the game. If they were tuned for, say, ilvl190 and dropped ilvl210 uncapped and unlocked you'd have more midcore content and ways to properly gear all your classes and use them for raids. You could have unlimited "plain" 210 gear in midcore, interesting dungeons while raids and token gear would have different perks and trait that would make it more desirable but not necessary to do any content with any class.

Good point. SE never sets their 'raid' tier gear to be worth the effort imo. As a casual player (in this game at least) I still feel that I shouldn't have access to stuff even remotely close to a more hardcore gamer since they take it more seriously than I do. Having raid tier gear literally only being 10 ilvls higher than casual gear makes me never want to waste my time regardless of the interesting challenge. I would at least say that raid gear needs to be 40 levels higher than casual gear (esos) while allowing eso gear to be upgraded via more points (particularly laws or vice verse) otherwise there's never going to be a point to do the more challenging content. Diadem is a prime example of this. Who honestly is going to care what stats are on a piece of 210 gear? If someone can enter an ilvl locked pf, the people in the pf will automatically assume the person has useful gear anyway, which is why I feel ilvls in games have always been silly. Majority of people will usually use whatever accessories to raise their ilvl regardless of usefulness. One thing I give credit to is how rift does their progression which is reliant on your main stat, no ilvls. So if you're a bard/mch/nin if you have X amount of dex, chances are your secondary stats will be somewhat useful instead of getting a bunch of vit/int/mnd/str stuff just to reach ilvl.