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    healer vit points

    So I have a scholar in all spell speed bits apart from 210 eso robe (not got 210 Gordian yet) , a 150 hq vit ring with spell speed (24) and a 190 Gordian ring. Also my bonus attributes are on vit, so far I can still heal 2500 adlo n 3000+ physick while having more survivability, plus my spells are quick 1.8 seconds. Marron glace is my food choice. What are your thoughts?
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    Why are you stacking spell speed? SCH wants CRIT
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    Hi Atlas.
    You idea is interesting, and what I usually liked to play with on oher games like Ragnarok (surviving an Asura Strike as a Priest was awesome), but it doesn't work like that here, unfortunately. I'd change all you points into MND and put on Crit especs and healing acessories, unless you're goin PVP.
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    Last edited by Fevelle; 11-29-2015 at 01:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Hi Atlas.
    You idea is interesting, and what I usually liked to play with on oher games like Ragnarok (surviving an Asura Strike as a Priest was awesome), but it doesn't work like that here, unfortunately. I'd change all you points into MND and put on Crit especs and healing acessories, unless you're goin PVP.
    I do play seal rock daily ^^
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    What Fevelle said.

    The only uses for stacking VIT are things like duo titan runs where you have to survive a Goal crush. And those are just rare fights even if you do them, one standard vit ring will work for that. But in any normal run, you shouldn't be stacking any VIT. You have unlimited HP in the form of heals.

    As far as the secondary stats, I don't know, but as I understand they are far less potent in HW than they were in ARR. MND is your most important stat.
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    Last edited by Whiteroom; 11-29-2015 at 01:52 AM.

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    Please don't do this in group play.
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    I can dps with higher damage , whispering dawn is increased and overall throw out heals more quickly. I tried the crit thing and went from like 10% crits to 15% whick imo doesn't benefit from quicker heals n increased hots/dots. Can solo heal Alex normal without running into mana issues and all trials bar thordan ex and expert dungeons. I guess it just works for me. Oh also RNG hates me with a vengeance , crits barely come around
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    Quote Originally Posted by samkitwood View Post
    I can dps with higher damage , whispering dawn is increased and overall throw out heals more quickly. I tried the crit thing and went from like 10% crits to 15% whick imo doesn't benefit from quicker heals n increased hots/dots. Can solo heal Alex normal without running into mana issues and all trials bar thordan ex and expert dungeons. I guess it just works for me. Oh also RNG hates me with a vengeance , crits barely come around
    So you are willfully being a detriment to your team. Stacking Vit on a healer at the expense of Mind is objectively the wrong way to heal in PvE group content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamillion View Post
    So you are willfully being a detriment to your team. Stacking Vit on a healer at the expense of Mind is objectively the wrong way to heal in PvE group content.
    Is he "willfully being a detriment to his team" because there is a flaw in his approach or because he plays differently than you? If there is a flaw, point out the issue and have something to back it up.

    Personally, I'm curious about Sam Kitwood's approach because it is similar to a viable summoner/healer build in another game I've played, Dofus. The idea was to focus on your own survival by stacking Vit and letting your minions do the tanking, healing, and dpsing with you supporting their actions.

    I'd like to hear more about how it works out in this game. In addition, I'm no fan of crit. Crit is subject to RNG and is not dependable.

    Meanwhile, Speed is dependable. Its effect is there every spell.

    So, I'm very much interested in this quirky thing Sam Kitwood is doing. Care to provide more information about your results, S.K.?
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    Last edited by Kacho_Nacho; 11-29-2015 at 09:19 AM. Reason: Character Limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    So, I'm very much interested in this quirky thing Sam Kitwood is doing. Care to provide more information about your results, S.K.?
    Will keep you posted, but as of now I can cycle full adlo shields real quick when dt is on cool down. Works so well for me. Thanks for the positive reply
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