Tank Balance - Thordan EX 7-WAR 1-WHM Clear (Really SE?)

[Im2Swift4You]

I'll just leave this here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn_kGVgQ1LU


If this doesn't show that the tanking balance needs a MAJOR overhaul then I give up.

[Launched]

Where's the problem? Could do it on WAR/DRK too, or with SCH/AST.

[Hysterior]

some WAR can pull even bigger numbers than some bad DPS so there is no issue

[Dererk]

some WAR can pull even bigger numbers than some bad DPS so there is no issue

If a war can pull off higher numbers than a dps who is doing a half a??ed rotation of the same item level.

Yes we have a problem.

[Exodus_Kenpachi]

If a war can pull off higher numbers than a dps who is doing a half a??ed rotation of the same item level.

Yes we have a problem.

What? Why? Please explain this obvious problem

[Exodus_Kenpachi]

I am failing to see the issue... Thordan has VERY easy DPS checks....

[Reynhart]

I am failing to see the issue... Thordan has VERY easy DPS checks....

The issue is that DPS checks have nothing to do with it
1st video, 7 tanks, one healer : Fight starts at 35:28 on the timer, and ends at 26:13, for a total of 9m15s
2nd video, the usual 2/2/4 setup : Fight starts at 51:18 and ends at 42:07, for a total of 9m11s

So, the 7WAR party is not doing "less but enough DPS", they're actually killing it as fast as the usual setup. Judging by the HP number, I don't think there's a real gap in gear, and we're talking about Elysium in the 2nd video, so I'm pretty sure they're not "half assed" players.

There's definitely a problem.

[Syzygian]

The issue is that DPS checks have nothing to do with it
1st video, 7 tanks, one healer : Fight starts at 35:28 on the timer, and ends at 26:13, for a total of 9m15s
2nd video, the usual 2/2/4 setup : Fight starts at 51:18 and ends at 42:07, for a total of 9m11s

So, the 7WAR party is not doing "less but enough DPS", they're actually killing it as fast as the usual setup. Judging by the HP number, I don't think there's a real gap in gear, and we're talking about Elysium, so I'm pretty sure they're not "half assed" players.

There's definitely a problem.

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[Launched]

There's definitely a problem.

No, there's definitely a big difference between a first clear 2 weeks ago and a clear after 2 weeks of practice. My group clears it faster than the 7 WARs. The fastest group on fflogs was almost an entire minute faster: http://www.fflogs.com/reports/k4fCnV...pe=damage-done

[Reynhart]

No, there's definitely a big difference between a first clear 2 weeks ago and a clear after 2 weeks of practice. My group clears it faster than the 7 WARs. The fastest group on fflogs was almost an entire minute faster: http://www.fflogs.com/reports/k4fCnV...pe=damage-done

Do you know anything about the gear of the fastest group ?

And, no, there's not a big difference. Thordan is a mechanic heavy fight, so, once you manage all of them, there's nothing preventing you from doing top DPS. And there's no big mess in the Elysium video to explain why they couldn't kill it faster.
Again, judging by the HP numbers, I doubt that the WARs have really better gear too.