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  1. #21
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    It can't possibly ever support the number of people that want housing the way it's currently set up. Honestly, I think the biggest mistake was combining personal and FC housing. Personal housing should have been instanced from the get-go.

    Changing it now would make me pretty unhappy, because some of my furnishings aren't easily replaceable.
    One thing I notice frequently is the devs overestimating how sociable people generally are. They never seemed to consider people wouldn't just hang around house zones and chat. They'd either just stay closed off with their friends/FC or stick to the major cities. At this point, they really need to find an actual solution not just band-aids.

    I do wonder if this could be a culture difference. Japanese gamers actually like exclusivity, whereas Western gamers utterly abhor it.
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    Doranaux Wavemet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    If your Balmung, I'm not really surprised. You probably RP regularly there. For anyone else, it wouldn't serve anything more then what an FC house would provide.
    I use my personal house on a daily basis on Goblin. Practically, it offers little that I couldn't get elsewhere, but I use it as my base of operations. If I'm crafting, I do so at my house. If I'm waiting for a queue to pop, its at the house. Almost any time I'm alone and there's any sort of downtime I go there. I spent a lot of time and money customizing it to my liking and I get a lot of mileage out of that work.

    Housing is like glamours. It has little practical benefit, but its still a huge part of the game for many people.
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    Last edited by WellFooled; 12-12-2015 at 04:42 PM.
    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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    Y'sira Kurai
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    I love my house too. It's very special to me. I love the idea of neighborhoods as well and having neighbors. Fixing housing shouldn't be having to spoil it for those of us who have one and enjoy it. They need to add more housing areas and wards. It's long overdue.
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  4. #24
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    Jynx Masamune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memoir View Post
    If SE were to announce they were going to redo housing to make it better (whatever it may be).
    To be honest they fooled us once with this from the 1.0 to 2.0 downgrade so I'd be skeptical at best to know what they would be doing to "Upgrade" the system considering they patchworked the whole thing in the first place.

    The things I would need to be assured to get me on their side I would need.

    -Reimbursment for the gil my company has spent.
    -Ensure my airship progress and company crafting log stay intact.
    -All furnishings (Even the non-returnable ones) will be reinstated to the improved housing system without fail.
    -All personal rooms either refunded or remain intact.

    Once they get that down pat I will be willing to LISTEN to what they have in mind, then decide whether I am on board or not, I'm not falling for letting them blindly change things like they did last time out absolute trust in them caused us to miss out on alot of stuff that could have made 2.0 amazing if it wasn't flat out removed from the game

    The housing system needs to change that much is aparrant, but they need to man up and do it properly this time and not just not do the work they promised to do.

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    To be honest the main issue is "Personal" housing it was never meant to share the same space as Company housing but after multiple delays and broken promises the "New" housing system was just flipping a switch to let individual players buy housing plots designed for companies. They need to rework personal housing from the ground up it should be instanced and linked to your character and not a space of land in the game.

    This way your personal housing could travel with you to let's say your Company and instead of personal rooms you have your personal housing space.
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    Last edited by Jynx; 12-12-2015 at 10:56 AM.

  5. #25
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    Arle Egress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memoir View Post
    If SE were to announce they were going to redo housing to make it better (whatever it may be), but they would be taking all the current housing away and reimbursing everyone their money for their house/plot to rework it, would you be upset or welcome the changes coming (provided they actually came out with a better housing system)?
    I would not be upset. It would be overdue by the time they did this, IF they ever even did it.

    I have the rare privilege of a house and I don't care if it gets taken away if we're going to get a better system that everyone who is subscribing can enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

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    Lets be real the people that do own a house are the minorities in this game. SE won't be able to please the masses without upsetting the minority that do own houses.
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    If they were "redoing it" yet we would still presumably have lots with houses on them... why would they need to remove what we have? Why not just transfer it to the new system? I don't see why they'd have to destroy my house to give me a house.

    The problem is that no matter how they plan this stuff, they need room on data servers to hold housing data for X number of people. If the data servers are expanded to accommodate everyone, unless they were removing exteriors and giving everyone glorified inn rooms, it would be exactly the same as it is now, merely unlimited by the number of areas.

    Your idea seems like just a way to kick some people, rustle jimmies, and continue the pointless bickering about the housing system.
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    Zeon Darksol
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    I already said housing was really not even worth it, I mean sure crafting furnishing and making gil off of it was great but in future its not gonna be worth diddly squat since some of the stuff isnt really worth removing from your house since you like it more than what new item was released.

    plus no room to put new stuff down, gardening isnt that great also dying chocobo and training after max what then?

    I don't see housing being a future thing.
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  9. #29
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    One thing I notice frequently is the devs overestimating how sociable people generally are. They never seemed to consider people wouldn't just hang around house zones and chat. They'd either just stay closed off with their friends/FC or stick to the major cities. At this point, they really need to find an actual solution not just band-aids.
    Honestly, my FC members and members from another nearby FC chat pretty often and visit each others' houses. I think that if there were more FC's in the surrounding houses (instead of them being personally owned) that there would be more interaction at places like market boards/summoning bells; basically the same places that see a lot of traffic in towns. I often craft out near the market board and summoning bell or up at the vendor simply to see if I can garner any casual conversation with people as they wander by.

    I do wonder if this could be a culture difference. Japanese gamers actually like exclusivity, whereas Western gamers utterly abhor it.
    I never really thought of that (I don't know much about Japanese culture tbh) but it's a definite possibility.
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    I prefer the current system. I'd rather have static houses with real neighbors and not instanced houses that everyone will be in their own dimension. If you don't have a house then get over it. Nobody stopped you from buying one when it came out.
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