A cry to the community

[Morningstar]

My message to the community would be to please leave the mmo snobbery behind. This is a game that isn't complete yet and the rules are currently being redefined. It is also a game that promised that players could completely customize their characters and fill multiple roles. So I wouldn't place any blame on a player just because they didn't fill the role you established for them based on your experiences in other games.

[UmJammerSully]

Here's a crazy idea...And correct me if it sounds stupid...

But how about instead of kicking people who don't play their "roles" correctly, you give them advice on how to better utilize their classes? It's really not that hard.

[feint2021]

Here's a crazy idea...And correct me if it sounds stupid...

But how about instead of kicking people who don't play their "roles" correctly, you tell them what they need to do? It's really not that hard.

He mentioned that....

[KRose]

But how about instead of kicking people who don't play their "roles" correctly, you give them advice on how to better utilize their classes? It's really not that hard.

lol did you even read the thread?

[kensredemption]

I blame the casuals & hardcores.

There, fixed.

[kensredemption]

It is also a game that promised that players could completely customize their characters and fill multiple roles.

You're also forgetting that XIV was supposed to appeal to a solo-player base. It's kinda hard to learn your role in a party if you're seldom in one if you're pressed for time. Me? I knew I'd never be able to learn to be an efficient Tank or Healer without any practice in a party, so since I play solo most of the time: Being a Lancer was the best thing I could ask for. I'm mowing down mob after mob on my own now, but still, I've yet to see how I'd handle myself in say a dungeon or an NM fight.

To reiterate what you stated before:

Should others be held accountable because the majority of players who are searching for parties are so arrogant that they brush others aside simply because they haven't gotten their levels up yet? I think not.

What the OP was trying to argue was simply from an elitist standpoint which, in the state that XIV and the player base is in, has no validity whatsoever. I would think that he would be parading his achievements around being the self-proclaimed master of his class, and yet all I've seen from him on the forums was merely pollutant posts on threads - doing more harm than good. That doesn't only apply to him, but also a vast majority of the die-hard fanatics and veterans from shoddier MMOs.

While they're spending 9 hours a day polluting the forums, I'm going out into Eorzea and gaining my levels and instead of reprimanding other players for their shortcomings - and especially if they find themselves on the verge of death - I lend whatever help I can offer. People seem to forget that they were all greenhorns at one point, and to make martyrs of those who are at least making an attempt at trying to learn the mechanics is rather condescending, hypocritical, and simply: Pathetic.

[KRose]

What the OP was trying to argue was simply from an elitist standpoint which, in the state that XIV and the player base is in, has no validity whatsoever.

I'm pretty sure what he was trying to argue was the fact the Gladiator didn't use Provoke/Cover, was told about Provoke/Cover, used them for one fight and then refused to use them from that point forward because they didn't want hit.

I'm all for letting people play the way they want but get real. You mean to tell me if you invited a Gladiator to tank and they refused to after you got to camp and started fighting that you wouldn't kick them? You can give pointers on how to play a class all you want but if they don't take it in then it doesn't matter.

This idiot let me die 4 times because he wouldn't provoke. When I confronted him about it, he didn't even know what it was. I asked him to use it. He said ok. Next fight, he uses it. It works. The next time, he doesn't use it...I die. I ask why he didn't use it...I get "The move makes the enemy hit me. I don't want to be hit."

I don't like the way he went about it with the whole pissy attitude thing but imo it's valid.

[kensredemption]

I'm all for letting people play the way they want but get real. You mean to tell me if you invited a Gladiator to tank and they refused to after you got to camp and started fighting that you wouldn't kick them? You can give pointers on how to play a class all you want but if they don't take it in then it doesn't matter.

Well, it's not like there's not unique situations like that. You can't rub all lowbie players the same way, after all. That's just plain ignorant. In any case, if they're eager to play their roles right: It'll show. Sometimes it'll seem like you're talking to a brick wall, but they'll fight for it if they really want it.

[EnverHoxha]

I see people throwing around the term "job." But in case you haven't noticed, GLA, as well as the rest of the "classes", is in fact actually just a weapon skill. I know it's all only semantics, but I think people are getting caught up in limiting roles by misinterpreting the weapon skills.

[akisato]

Please learn your classes.

The game is now based primarily around parties. Don't get to 30+ in a Gladiator and not know what Provoke is and expect me to NOT kick you from the party. The same goes for CNJ and healing...for the love of god, learn your roles...please...

Not gonna matter it will be a diffrent game in a year we will all need to relearn our class then anyway also this never works if they wanted to learn to play their class they would have done it already stop being an A**