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    Greywolfamakir's Avatar
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Houston009 View Post
    I said I like it, not that I prefer it. I like opening with suiton.

    If you wanna know the actual benefits of suiton after DE/AE its that suiton gets fully buffed by B4B/IR/Pot(Not sure if Foe is on target if suiton is first attack). Not that I'd weigh it over opening with suiton, but you asked.
    Suiton should be used asap, but TA should be used after 3-5 GCDs because DPS jobs need around 3-5 GCDs of preparation during opener, I mean:
    MNK; 5 GCDs for full buffed. (3xGS + DK + TW)
    DRG; 3 GCDs for full buffed (Heavy Trust + Disembowel)
    BLM; 3 GCDs preparation for Fire IV spam.
    SMN: More than 5 GCDs for Trance.
    BRD; 3 GCDs preparation (Straigh Shot + 2xDoTs)
    MCH; 3 GCDs preparation for Wildfire opener (Hot Shot + Lead Shot + Split Shot)
    WAR: 3 GCDs for full buffed (Maim + Storm Eye)

    There is no reason for use TA before 3-4 GCDs.
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    Last edited by Greywolfamakir; 12-11-2015 at 07:07 PM.

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    Callback's Avatar
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    Callback Spanner
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    Suiton should be used asap, but TA should be used after 3-5 GCDs because DPS jobs need around 3-5 GCDs of preparation during opener, I mean:
    MNK; 5 GCDs for full buffed. (3xGS + DK + TW)
    DRG; 3 GCDs for full buffed (Heavy Trust + Disembowel)
    BLM; 3 GCDs preparation for Fire IV spam.
    SMN: More than 5 GCDs for Trance.
    BRD; 3 GCDs preparation (Straigh Shot + 2xDoTs)
    MCH; 3 GCDs preparation for Wildfire opener (Hot Shot + Lead Shot + Split Shot)
    WAR: 3 GCDs for full buffed (Maim + Storm Eye)

    There is no reason for use TA before 3-4 GCDs.
    In his defense, the Suiton opener still has you doing GCDx4 while holding the buff to enable TA before you actually pop it.
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    Player Houston009's Avatar
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    Suiton should be used asap, but TA should be used after 3-5 GCDs because DPS jobs need around 3-5 GCDs of preparation during opener, I mean:
    MNK; 5 GCDs for full buffed. (3xGS + DK + TW)
    DRG; 3 GCDs for full buffed (Heavy Trust + Disembowel)
    BLM; 3 GCDs preparation for Fire IV spam.
    SMN: More than 5 GCDs for Trance.
    BRD; 3 GCDs preparation (Straigh Shot + 2xDoTs)
    MCH; 3 GCDs preparation for Wildfire opener (Hot Shot + Lead Shot + Split Shot)
    WAR: 3 GCDs for full buffed (Maim + Storm Eye)

    There is no reason for use TA before 3-4 GCDs.
    Where in my post did i say use TA before 3-4 GCDs, please read. I feel like you are quoting the wrong person. /sigh

    I don't need a defense when this guy blatantly does not know that Suiton is a 10s buff and that Trick Attack can be used at anytime during that duration. (If its off CD).
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    Last edited by Houston009; 12-12-2015 at 03:20 AM.