Quote Originally Posted by Carstien View Post
17 second is the standard so nin can activate Huton and have it up for 15 secs.
Forunately it's not, it's just the bare minimum you need in order to get trick attack off after 4 gcd's, if your group for some stupid reason doesn't want 20 (more like 22-23) seconds. Every kind of optimized nin opener needs 20 seconds though.