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    RegnumIrae's Avatar
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    So, Dismiss feature.

    Hey there.

    Welp, I've just been kicked from a dungeon while doing the leveling roulette. I reported these guys for kicking me, and in the reply I got this:



    So I basically was telling our monk to start caring about the dungeon's mechanics, and even about the positionals, which monks are all about. He said he was lagging really badly, which was pretty much a lie since if you're lagging badly enough to ignore the mechanics or not care about positionals, then everyone could notice it. The thing is, does the text in that picture mean they basically won't get punished? I got kicked because I kept telling them about that, they just didn't like me telling them so I got kicked, wasting quite some of my time.

    *Wtf, 1000 characters cap? xD*

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    ...

    If that's the case then I just can't see how could SE come with something so open to abuse. If I join whatever through the DF with a friend and for whatever reason we don't like one guy, then can we just start a silly dispute and kick him afterwards? That makes no sense to me, but that's what seems to be the case according to that. And it's even dumber having in mind you can kick someone with a single positive vote. Come on.

    Thanks.
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    You can edit your posts to get past the limit.

    Edit: I think I read your argument backwards.
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    Last edited by Greedalox; 12-09-2015 at 10:53 AM.

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    SE put in the kick feature then because a bunch of people bitched about being possibly kicked they put in a feel good system about how you can get the person who hurt your feelings reported. But they don't care. Just like everything in this game. It's either something from another FF ripped straight from it or combined with a trope from TVtrope (Right not Kain? He doesn't deserve a name because he really is just a rip off of Kain. It's not like he's been MC'd twice too, right? And JUST after a big feat was done? I mean, like taking the last dark crystal. Or the last eye of a dragon?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chayala View Post
    SE put in the kick feature then because a bunch of people bitched about being possibly kicked they put in a feel good system about how you can get the person who hurt your feelings reported. But they don't care. Just like everything in this game. It's either something from another FF ripped straight from it or combined with a trope from TVtrope (Right not Kain? He doesn't deserve a name because he really is just a rip off of Kain. It's not like he's been MC'd twice too, right? And JUST after a big feat was done? I mean, like taking the last dark crystal. Or the last eye of a dragon?)
    Yeah, I missed the part about Estinien's Paladin best friend, feelings for a woman he can never attain, and where the original Kain had a deeply personal hatred for a race that defined him as a person. But I'm guessing you were too busy whining about Final Fantasy things being in a Final Fantasy game to notice any of that.
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    I think seeing the party chat would make it easier to determine just how all this went down.

    Either way, sounds like you were in a party where things weren't going so well. Be thankful you got booted instead of having to ditch and get a 30 minute penalty.
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    Uh sometimes I lag so bad I just stand in AOEs... because I won't make it out of them anyway.
    I mean should you have been kicked for telling them to care? No, I don't think so... but hey just requeue and try again.
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    GM's are obligated to not take sides and can only act when there is a definitive act of harassment that is nigh impossible to dispute.

    Unless you can absolutely prove that you were being harassed by another player, then simply it is a player dispute in which two or more individuals had contending desires or feelings about a situation which is outside of the given power of a GM to mediate.

    In this situation you feel as if you were wronged, however to the person you were speaking to it may have been you that was harassing them which led to the vote kick. If they were then punished for what in their mind was using the tools available to avoid harassment, how is that fair?

    While you suspect that the situation was what you believe it was, there is no proof.

    There are at least two sides to every story and as I have already said, GM's can't take sides. They need a pretty cut and dry situation to be able to dole out just punishment. They are nobody's personal vindication inquisition.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 12-09-2015 at 03:41 PM.

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    Sohm Al is the worst dungeon for me, I only lag on the last boss. I can't even see any of the ground AoEs half the time and I usually end up standing in all of them (except the comet things, I can see those!). I warn my parties about it every time, and sometimes I get kicked for "being lazy and not dodging". Sometimes other people can't see your lag, so if that guy said he was lagging bad he might have been telling the truth.
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
    Sohm Al is the worst dungeon for me, I only lag on the last boss.-
    If you're referring to the one where Tioman drops a circle marker on someone and then line markers everywhere, if you watch for a cast bar with "Chaos Star" i think its called, begin moving when you see the cast at the half point (or less if your lag is THAT bad), by the time the cast finishes it'll target where your lagging body still is but when the damage hits, you've now moved according to the server to your new position.
    It's pretty much how i had to deal with it and i got the idea from Titan HM and counting down the seconds between mechanics so i could begin moving BEFORE i need to so that the latency catches up to my new spot when the casts actually happen >_>

    Australian lag is FTW.
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