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    PLEASE do not P2P

    OK let me say that I'm not a complainer, I enjoy most all things. But, to be asked to pay to play a game that they have to remake because the game was made wrong the first time is insulting. I feel offended to be asked to pay money to play a game that the (new) developers feel they need to remake almost entirely to be a fully enjoyable experience. I can go into alot of detail for this, but we all know this game is not up to par, especially being as this is Square Enixs product, one of the biggest game companys today.

    I am making this post and requesting that all reasonable individuals agree with me and please sign to this forum to show this not a reasonable course for action. Thank you.
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    I kind of agree with you but I highly highly doubt they will change their mind at this point. I'm going to pay and I'm ok with it. Not happy but I'll deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    OK let me say that I'm not a complainer, I enjoy most all things. But, to be asked to pay to play a game that they have to remake because the game was made wrong the first time is insulting. I feel offended to be asked to pay money to play a game that the (new) developers feel they need to remake almost entirely to be a fully enjoyable experience. I can go into alot of detail for this, but we all know this game is not up to par, especially being as this is Square Enixs product, one of the biggest game companys today.

    I am making this post and requesting that all reasonable individuals agree with me and please sign to this forum to show this not a reasonable course for action. Thank you.
    agreed, iam not gonna pay subs for "unfinished product"
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    SE is a gaming company, not a charity. They've been running a completely free game for over a year. The game is no longer the broken mess that it was at launch. Like it or not, the free trial is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    SE is a gaming company, not a charity. They've been running a completely free game for over a year. The game is no longer the broken mess that it was at launch. Like it or not, the free trial is over.
    they run this game for free because its still in Beta-phase, and what do they expect from you playing a free game? feedback of course. and why bother to pay for a game since you are not playing the v2.0?
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    I understand that SE needs income, but we are paying for a mistake until the new game arrives. At this point, who knows that will be redone and what will be kept.
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    I completely understand the need for money in a business. However, this game is far from out of beta. There is no end game content worth doing aside from Ifrit. Even then you kill him several times and you're probably done getting all the loot you need. They plan on releasing what, 1 more end game fight between now and p2p? That's not acceptable.

    They will lose their high end crowd and kill the game for 50's. Will those people come back? Sure. But not until a year later when this game finally is worth playing. So what happens until then? You lose player base, current player base quits at the end game from boredom also. It's just bad for your community in game which is already severely lacking. P2P for a game with the most atrocious UI to ever hit the mmo market won't help either. I know of hundreds of MMO friends who will not play this game still to this day because of the UI. P2P should be put off another 6 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearforce View Post
    they run this game for free because its still in Beta-phase, and what do they expect from you playing a free game? feedback of course. and why bother to pay for a game since you are not playing the v2.0?
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    I understand that SE needs income, but we are paying for a mistake until the new game arrives. At this point, who knows that will be redone and what will be kept.
    Quote Originally Posted by Klick View Post
    I completely understand the need for money in a business. However, this game is far from out of beta. There is no end game content worth doing aside from Ifrit. Even then you kill him several times and you're probably done getting all the loot you need. They plan on releasing what, 1 more end game fight between now and p2p? That's not acceptable.
    At this point in the game's development 'I don't want to pay for a beta' doesn't fly anymore. Most of the game's major issues have been addressed (although maybe not to your personal satisfaction), and the more glaring issues. Good progress has been made on the lack of content.

    I see posts like this but can't help but think that behind it all is simply people who want the game to remain free indefinitely.
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    This is what you're paying for:
    1. The ability to keep leveling your character to max. (rank 50)
    2. The ability to build yourself a nest egg.
    3. Access to quests, storylines, missions, and even game zones and areas that may no longer exist in FFXIV 2.0
    4. Lasting friendships and companionship from others who like you went a year without homes,auction houses, mounted steeds...etc.
    5. The opportunity to get REALLY use to being a Male Lalafell only to wake up one day upon the release of FFXIV 2.0 to be talked into changing into a Female Roegadyn...try explaining that to your friends at the first linkshell meeting post 2.0.
    6. No MMORPG is ever finished...to use that as a reason not to pay is silly. This genre of game is designed to be 'never-ending.' As to the 'issues' SE really has fixed the majority of them that they are workable and not nearly as glaring at this point...and continue to fix them with each patch.

    Lastly: If you went to the store and bought another non MMORPG game new it'd probably be $60.00ish. You'd probably get about 60 hours of gameplay out of that game assuming it was a good game. (so a $1/hr ratio) Even if you bought the CE edition of this game at full price, (somewhere around $80.00 if I remember correctly) SE has charged you nothing else to play the game for over a year. Most active players have well over 80 hours of gameplay invested. So you got a hecka deal.
    Or another way of thinking of it: If you will average over 15 hours/month playing this game then you should be paying for it. If you think the game is crap, then you should ask yourself why you are playing it free or not. Free doesn't make it 'better'. But if you play the game at least 4 hours a week on average, then yes, you must like something about it, and SE deserves to be paid for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klick View Post
    I completely understand the need for money in a business. However, this game is far from out of beta. There is no end game content worth doing aside from Ifrit. Even then you kill him several times and you're probably done getting all the loot you need. They plan on releasing what, 1 more end game fight between now and p2p? That's not acceptable.

    They will lose their high end crowd and kill the game for 50's. Will those people come back? Sure. But not until a year later when this game finally is worth playing. So what happens until then? You lose player base, current player base quits at the end game from boredom also. It's just bad for your community in game which is already severely lacking. P2P for a game with the most atrocious UI to ever hit the mmo market won't help either. I know of hundreds of MMO friends who will not play this game still to this day because of the UI. P2P should be put off another 6 months.
    That and it's so easy to get to 50 now in parties, people will be at end game "cough one fight" in no time now.
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