PLEASE do not P2P

[Colonel]

OK let me say that I'm not a complainer, I enjoy most all things. But, to be asked to pay to play a game that they have to remake because the game was made wrong the first time is insulting. I feel offended to be asked to pay money to play a game that the (new) developers feel they need to remake almost entirely to be a fully enjoyable experience. I can go into alot of detail for this, but we all know this game is not up to par, especially being as this is Square Enixs product, one of the biggest game companys today.

I am making this post and requesting that all reasonable individuals agree with me and please sign to this forum to show this not a reasonable course for action. Thank you.

[Ruri]

I kind of agree with you but I highly highly doubt they will change their mind at this point. I'm going to pay and I'm ok with it. Not happy but I'll deal with it.

[Bearforce]

OK let me say that I'm not a complainer, I enjoy most all things. But, to be asked to pay to play a game that they have to remake because the game was made wrong the first time is insulting. I feel offended to be asked to pay money to play a game that the (new) developers feel they need to remake almost entirely to be a fully enjoyable experience. I can go into alot of detail for this, but we all know this game is not up to par, especially being as this is Square Enixs product, one of the biggest game companys today.

I am making this post and requesting that all reasonable individuals agree with me and please sign to this forum to show this not a reasonable course for action. Thank you.

agreed, iam not gonna pay subs for "unfinished product"

[Dreamer]

SE is a gaming company, not a charity. They've been running a completely free game for over a year. The game is no longer the broken mess that it was at launch. Like it or not, the free trial is over.

[Bearforce]

SE is a gaming company, not a charity. They've been running a completely free game for over a year. The game is no longer the broken mess that it was at launch. Like it or not, the free trial is over.

they run this game for free because its still in Beta-phase, and what do they expect from you playing a free game? feedback of course. and why bother to pay for a game since you are not playing the v2.0?

[Vawn]

they run this game for free because its still in Beta-phase, and what do they expect from you playing a free game? feedback of course. and why bother to pay for a game since you are not playing the v2.0?

You people can keep calling it a Beta all you want, but it is not a beta.

Yes, the original game was broken. The new team had a new design for the game shortly after taking over the project. It would have been MUCH easier for them to build the new game if shutting down the original broken game down completely was an option. They didn't do that, not because they needed more "Beta time", but because they felt that the company as a whole HAD to do that for the people that wished to keep playing. So instead they started rebuilding the game while at the same time bringing the old game to a playable and enjoyable state. That is not an easy task, but for over an entire year without charging those who wanted to play the game.

Now, with patches 1.18, 1.19, 1.19a and coming up with 1.20 the game is significantly better. If you are one of those who have been playing the game for the last year with no monthly charges, I don't feel sorry for you that they are starting to charge. Free or not, you obviously enjoyed the game to some extent, otherwise why are you still here?

Monthly fees are begining, but SE isn't forcing anyone to play. You have the outline, if you want to wait for 2.0 to play, that's your right. But the free ride is up. I find the game enjoyable now and look forward to seeing further updates over the next year. Its worth the price of admission for me. If it isn't for you, come back later.

TL;DR: You either want to play the game or you don't. If you want to play, you have to pay. It isn't a hard concept. This is how the world works.

[stoned]

You people can keep calling it a Beta all you want, but it is not a beta.

Yes, the original game was broken. The new team had a new design for the game shortly after taking over the project. It would have been MUCH easier for them to build the new game if shutting down the original broken game down completely was an option. They didn't do that, not because they needed more "Beta time", but because they felt that the company as a whole HAD to do that for the people that wished to keep playing. So instead they started rebuilding the game while at the same time bringing the old game to a playable and enjoyable state. That is not an easy task, but for over an entire year without charging those who wanted to play the game.

Now, with patches 1.18, 1.19, 1.19a and coming up with 1.20 the game is significantly better. If you are one of those who have been playing the game for the last year with no monthly charges, I don't feel sorry for you that they are starting to charge. Free or not, you obviously enjoyed the game to some extent, otherwise why are you still here?

Monthly fees are begining, but SE isn't forcing anyone to play. You have the outline, if you want to wait for 2.0 to play, that's your right. But the free ride is up. I find the game enjoyable now and look forward to seeing further updates over the next year. Its worth the price of admission for me. If it isn't for you, come back later.

TL;DR: You either want to play the game or you don't. If you want to play, you have to pay. It isn't a hard concept. This is how the world works.

its beta dude...new server,gameengine, arcutecture, maps, even chars..... the producer him self calls 2.0 a new game... stop argueing because there have been many beta that let you keep your char... mayby SE will by some of wows old servers so they dont have to test them and server load test them on us.... the only ones playing and testing this crap atm...you see they dont offer or say anything about beta to new 2.0 right? there wont be for a reason... because we are the test dummys.

[Vawn]

its beta dude...new server,gameengine, arcutecture, maps, even chars..... the producer him self calls 2.0 a new game... stop argueing because there have been many beta that let you keep your char... mayby SE will by some of wows old servers so they dont have to test them and server load test them on us.... the only ones playing and testing this crap atm...you see they dont offer or say anything about beta to new 2.0 right? there wont be for a reason... because we are the test dummys.

If its a whole new game then how do you figure keeping an old game running equates to a beta? A beta is to help test a game before its made available. If it is really a completely new game then you might as well call FFXI a beta for FFXIV 2.0 as well.

You don't know what a Beta is.

[Fullmetal]

SE is a gaming company, not a charity. They've been running a completely free game for over a year. The game is no longer the broken mess that it was at launch. Like it or not, the free trial is over.

Then they should not have released the game in a state where one would think it was created by a donation based company.

[stoned]

SE is a gaming company, not a charity. They've been running a completely free game for over a year. The game is no longer the broken mess that it was at launch. Like it or not, the free trial is over.

just payed for my next years sub for wow...yea a full year..will get my d3 game when it releases and i get free beta invite to the new xpac... dont see why i should pay to play this beta when i get all that for what i pretty much payed for this game to begin with... yea i accualy payed more if you cound all the crap i did to my pc in order to ensure i could play the game smoothly...to bad even with a beefy pc the game wont run smothly till after the beta... i wont pay for this beta.

guess SE is charity for leting us play their beta for free....