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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    I was talking about the effect of the stance change resetting the combo...
    No. The fact that stance dance breaks combo is exactly why you need to do 2 full combos before switching back.

    For example, let's take a RoH combo and a fast blade, for a total of 4 GCD. In ShO, you get, potency-wise : (150+200+260+150)*0.8 = 608 potency
    Now, if you SwO just after the first Fast Blade, you get 150*0.8+0+200+260+100 from 2 AA in SwO = 680 potency

    If you have to put back Shield Oath, you'd need about 7 GCD to still gain DPS by stance dancing, while still switching back to Shield Oath mid-combo.

    If I were to argue only about the GCD vs OffGCD, I would have said that by "wasting" 2 GCD, you'd also let Goring Blade and/or Strength down wear off, thus losing either some damage or some mitigation...or both.
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    Chaosgrimm Winsock
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
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    No, we're not talking about the same thing.
    You're talking about the minimum commitment in order for a stance change to be worth it, I'm talking about avoiding dps loss from a combo break. Minimum commitment is a conversation to compare WAR stance cooldowns.

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    the weird thing, is Tank pos swap on War is CD, and on Dark/PLD it's GCD. GCD cancel combo but
    Inner beast is GCD but it don't cancel combo.
    It's a weird logic. Nobody can understand why...
    I think also if the PLD should be the best denfense Tank, it can be true but the difference is maybe a little too light. because against magic the defense advantage is killed.
    it make actualy a good comp to be WAR/PLD against physic boss, and War/dark against magic boss
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    Last edited by kensatsu; 12-17-2015 at 11:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kensatsu View Post
    the weird thing, is Tank pos swap on War is CD, and on Dark/PLD it's GCD. GCD cancel combo but Inner beast is GCD but it don't cancel combo.
    Flash doesn't, Unleash doesn't, Clemency does...

    It's obvious they pick that at random...
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