about the ToS and parsing

[SnugglesD]

No one gets banned for parsing. No one gets banned for talking about parsing. Ever. Its been publicly stated by the dev team. The only time anyone will ever get banned with any relation to parsing is EXTREME griefing. Even mild griefing just results in a warning.

Its just like the laws still on the books in some states in the US that ban anyone that's not a white male christian from holding public office. They're unenforceable.

[zosia]

No. You never need to find out who's pulling their weight, because that's completely irrelevant. Neither winning nor losing a fight are ever a problem. You're allowed to lose fights. You're not allowed to use third party programs to access information you're not supposed to have. Not being good enough to win legitimately doesn't give you the right to cheat.

[Fersaken]

From everything I have read it isn't against the ToS. In any way shape or form. You can even brag about using it ( derbie being banned ( or whatever his name ) was very wrong ( but notice they banned him from the forums not the game )). ACT does not do any form of data mining. What ACT does is take the text from the combat log and add up the damage then divide that damage by the amount of time you were in combat. If its bannable then SE needs to rework their tos because there is nothing stopping someone like me, RAIN MANISH who can add up numbers very quickly in my head as they scroll across the combat log, much like act. Guess I should be banned as a player.

However it is against the ToS to use that information to harass someone

I.E. You dps sucks, get a life = not okay
I.E. Hey man you did a great job dps = okay
I.E. Vote kick someone out of an instance because their dps is low = ok
I.E. You fucking suck then kicking them = not ok.

[dank1]

No. You never need to find out who's pulling their weight, because that's completely irrelevant. Neither winning nor losing a fight are ever a problem. You're allowed to lose fights. You're not allowed to use third party programs to access information you're not supposed to have. Not being good enough to win legitimately doesn't give you the right to cheat.

Spoken like a true casual

[Arrak]

Here we go again...

[Niwashi]

Spoken like a true casual

As though that had anything at all to do with what the Terms of Service allow. Playstyle does not impact your rights to the software.

[Arrak]

As though that had anything at all to do with what the Terms of Service allow. Playstyle does not impact your rights to the software.

You'd think the message from the developer would have already cleared up this argument. Right?

Edit: https://youtu.be/3-WXYg-S05U?t=6m3s That's the answer to the OP. They're against the rules, but they're not actively seeking to ban people using them as they understand its part of the MMORPG culture on PC. Bots = bad, Parsers = People's gonna use them, just don't brag because you have them and PS4 players don't.

[BARDS_ARROW]

Oh wow, I didn't expect this kind of response but thank you guys! You've cleared up a lot for me. As a PS4 user, I'm not all that worldly when it comes to third-party addon's, I just didn't want to see my FC tear itself apart over this issue.

[Bhuni]

Spoken like a true casual

He's not casual, just a terrible player.

[Caitlinzulu]

I.E. Vote kick someone out of an instance because their dps is low = ok

And that is exactly the reason why i object violently to any kind of parser. I call this harassement!