It's worth the monthly fee alone...

[Jocko]

And I'll be glad to be away from "toxic" players who praise every little move Square makes, and throw every legitimate complaint into the "whining" category. I guess we'll both be happy.

[Cycloptichorn]

And I'll be glad to be away from "toxic" players who praise every little move Square makes, and throw every legitimate complaint into the "whining" category. I guess we'll both be happy.

Well, the obvious difference is that there's nothing toxic about positive players who think that the game is fun - at all.

Honey v. Vinegar, baby, no comparison

[Jocko]

Well, the obvious difference is that there's nothing toxic about positive players who think that the game is fun - at all.

Honey v. Vinegar, baby, no comparison

Aside from giving Square the impression that what they produce is worth money? Then sure

[Cycloptichorn]

Aside from giving Square the impression that what they produce is worth money? Then sure

Why is that a bad impression? What they produce IS worth money. I've probably been giving them money longer than you've been alive. I want them to continue producing the things that they are producing, because they have been consistently fun for decades.

You're never going to get ahead in life by being a complainer, yaknow that? Never.

[Jocko]

Why is that a bad impression? What they produce IS worth money. I've probably been giving them money longer than you've been alive. I want them to continue producing the things that they are producing, because they have been consistently fun for decades.

You're never going to get ahead in life by being a complainer, yaknow that? Never.

If it weren't for the complainers, XIV wouldn't even be up to the state it is now, none the less have a 2.0 version on the way.

And I believe that the vast majority would disagree with you about XIV being worth money

[Cycloptichorn]

If it weren't for the complainers, XIV wouldn't even be up to the state it is now, none the less have a 2.0 version on the way.

And I believe that the vast majority would disagree with you about XIV being worth money

Based on what, exactly?

I mean, you didn't get to your level without logging in and playing. A lot. You didn't do that because the game sucks. You did that because you enjoyed doing it enough to do it. That means that it's worth SOMETHING at least.

Suck it up, a few bucks a month is nothing. I predict that more than a few who are QQ'ing in their beer today, will be paying in a month - because you just don't put hundreds of hours into something and not care about it.

[Jocko]

To be honest, I mostly played the game to receive a close look at the development process. As a budding game developer myself, it was quite the interesting experience. Worth paying for? Absolutely not.

[Preypacer]

If it weren't for the complainers, XIV wouldn't even be up to the state it is now, none the less have a 2.0 version on the way.

And I believe that the vast majority would disagree with you about XIV being worth money

First: It doesn't matter what "the vast majority" agree or disagree with.

If you feel it's not worth it, then it's not worth it to you.
If he feels it's worth it, then it's worth it to him.

What anyone else thinks is irrelevant to yours or his opinion. Of course, unless you form your opinions entirely around what "the majority" think rather than thinking for yourself. If that's the case... well, it would be pretty sad.

However, entertaining your assertion... Even if it did matter, as of the current results in this thread, those who feel it is worth money outnumber those who don't by almost 2.5 times. 422 in favor of subs to 176 against as of my posting this.

Kinda shoots your "vast majority" statement out of the water, don't it?

Now go ahead and bitterly bark about how "those people don't count 'cause they're all SE fanboys"... or something ridiculous of that nature. That is, after all, how your type usually dismisses any opinion you don't agree with, isn't it?