The Bottom Feeders: Moves You Never Use and Why (Ver. 2)

[VanilleFang]

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The thing about Aero III is that it is an AoE, so it comes at a higher MP cost (though not as high as you might expect) and a slightly longer cast time (3s instead of 2.5). It's good during AoE pulls and if you want to sacrifice the extra time/MP then you can use it along with the other two on bosses. I can't see it replacing Aero II in my single target rotation though, but that may be personal preference...

Aero: 50 + 150 over 18s (200) for 354 MP. 0.565~ potency per MP
Aero II: 50 + 200 over 12s (250) for 442 MP. 0.566~ potency per MP
Aero III: 50 + 320 over 24s (370) for 707 MP. 0.52~ potency per MP

EDIT: Aero III is the least mana efficient and has the longest cast time. The basic idea should still be that Aero and Aero II are best for signle targets, Aero III is best for a group. (Thank you AzureFlare).

[Morningstar1337]

Maybe I'm trying too hard to upsell Aero II though. Aero III is just better in most situations which is a bit disappointing. I don't understand why they would introduce an AoE Aero with a higher potency than Aero II, which was already the less useful of the two Aero spells. Though it is nice to have a third DoT that stacks with the other two.

Because they already did that with Cure? Cure III has 550 potency, a target centered AoE and the cost can be cut when it procs. Ironiclay Cure II seems useful in comparison. Though Now I wonder if the hypothetical Bio III and Combust III would also be AoE?

[AzureFlare]

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Aero 2 is 250 damage, not 210. Would push it to about the same potency per MP as Aero. No need to upsell a good spell. They changed Aero 2 since 3.0.

[VanilleFang]

Aero 2 is 250 damage, not 210. Would push it to about the same potency per MP as Aero. No need to upsell a good spell. They changed Aero 2 since 3.0.

Ah thanks. I kept reading different potency numbers on different sites, so I went with the most common (wasn't in game at the time).

@Morningstar: Yeah, but the difference between Cure II and Cure III isn't the same as Aero II and Aero III. It's a whole other beast.

[Morgan]

My bottom feeder is Eos. I forgot how to use that tankeroo back in ARR xD Im carrying pocket lala whm with me anyway <3

[Nerael]

My bottom feeder is Eos. I forgot how to use that tankeroo back in ARR xD Im carrying pocket lala whm with me anyway <3

You're doing it wrong! Put Lala scholar in your pocket, Lala Scholar puts Eos in pocket. Voila, triple healing powah!

[Februs]

EDIT: Aero III is the least mana efficient and has the longest cast time. The basic idea should still be that Aero and Aero II are best for signle targets, Aero III is best for a group. (Thank you AzureFlare).

I see... Thanks for the break down. I'm not gonna lie, my Whm is typically the job I put the least amount of thought into. You guys are doing an awesome job of fast tracking my knowledge.

[VanilleFang]

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I'm not so awesome lol. I tried to be all smart but Azure ended up having to correct me.

All this being said Aero III is a great spell, and I didn't even get into how efficient it is even with just 2 mobs.

[AzureFlare]

I'm not so awesome lol. I tried to be all smart but Azure ended up having to correct me.

All this being said Aero III is a great spell, and I didn't even get into how efficient it is even with just 2 mobs.

Meh, I just pointed out a small fact and a small hint, you did the rest on your own. At least you used math and came to the right conclusions. I mean, we could always do it the way the tank forums do it, shout first math never.

[Jeibird]

I personally love dissipation, it has allowed me to clear dungeon runs that I had no business clearing. Thanks to healing bonus on top of popping Eos' heal potency increase which stays past her leaving and emergency aether stacks, I have successfully healed through stupid on a few occasions.

As already mentioned yeah I have not once used sustain, and miasma 2's only use so far seems to be Keeper of the Lake. Also Ruin1 naturally got replaced as soon as Ruin 2 was available.