Bulge size options for character creation.

[ErryK]

Eh, you're trying really hard. But I found Egi glamours to be really useless as well. My SMN hasnt even unlocked Carbuncle glamours and tbh, I dont really care if SCH gets fairy-glamours or not.
But if they do something nice with it that I could end up liking, then I'm not opposed to it. Same goes for the couple emotes. Its a nice to have, but you dont see me there arguing why this is an absolute necessity, do you`?

You don't really care about SCH glamours, but you'll be the first person to come into a thread to complain about people asking for a small increase to a mesh where their crotch is. If that is something that affects you, pixelated penises, then you need a reality check, honey.

Secondly, IF they were to implement such features, everyone could make use of it if they wanted to, no matter the gender.
But here we are talking about "QQ I dont feel manly cos my character has no visible bulge, its so unfair that females have a breast slider!!!1111oneone".

Everyone could make use of the breast slider, no matter the gender, but here we are complaining about pixel penises as if it will affect your life quality. If it really didn't matter, you'd roll your eyes and get on with your life.

Still amazed you dont see how hilarious this discussion is

I'm amazed that misandry is a positive thing for you.

[Faliandra]

hahahahaha, now we have come to the point where thinking low-key pixel bulges are fine is equal to misandry XD

The amount of sheer full-blown ridiculousness has really crossed the line here. I suggest you take your own advice and get a reality check because obviously YOU
cant get over not having a well-endowed pixel bulge in a game.

I've had my fair share of harassment ingame because of idiot players who can only think with their genitalia, so I do not need more of that crap by enhancing stupid and redundant features like bulges.
Because it is bound to happen. And all of that just so a few ERPers can run around naked with their bulges. Lol.


Anyway, I'm out of this discussion.

[Magic-Mal]

Pixels

Why not let everyone run around naked, jiggle effects and all then? Since they are only pixels after all right?

I hope you're realizing why your pixel argument is silly.

Pixels put together create images that can offend people or be inappropriate for a game. That's what ratings are for. Pixels have weight. Yoshi already had to think hard on whether or not he could allow players to smoke or drink.

Whether you want to believe it or not, a visually big penis is a sexual theme in media. Sorry it's how it is. For women, big bust, big butt? Sexual theme in media. It's how it is. Don't act like it doesn't exist.

Allowing players to have a big bulge so you can see it outlined in your underwear or pants is a sexual theme.

If you paint an image of something offensive/inappropriate you can't say "Lol chill it's just paint". No doesn't work like that. The paint created an image that has a meaning. Same goes for pixels.

EDIT: Also Faliandra had a good point with how you bash her about taking pixels seriously. But look at you.

[Fernosaur]

I'm amazed that misandry is a positive thing for you.

I don't necessarily agree with Faliandra, because I think her argument about dismissing someone's "glamour wants" as obsolete is flawed logic, but there is a big misunderstanding here, which makes your own argument flawed logic in itself.

A man's bulge and penis size is not the same as a woman's breast size. The reason for this is that breasts are not reproductive or sexual organs, unlike a penis. The fact that breasts are sexualized by society at large is a whole different issue, and it's a discussion that is much denser than the one going on in this thread. I'm not going to deny there's a bit of a double-standard going on in the game with the topic of nipples and bare chests when it comes to males and females, but this is hardly the developers' fault, as they also have age ratings to consider.

You do have to consider, though, that a female's breasts actually do affect a large percent of the clothes they wear, save for plate and heavy armors, so in a way the breast slider is understandable. If anything, I think a comparable to a female's breast size in men would be the size of their musculature, since muscles are largely sexualized in males despite them not having any form of sexual connotation. It's actually somewhat strange to me that there isn't a muscle slider for all races. I guess I can understand Lalafells? But the rest kind of eludes me. In the end, though, even Hyurs can only change the definition and toning of their muscles and not so much their size, so...

[xJimmehx]

A man's bulge and penis size is not the same as a woman's breast size. The reason for this is that breasts are not reproductive or sexual organs, unlike a penis.

I heard that it is far more acceptable in japan for a lady to show her lower portions of her butt cheeks in a super short skirt than to show a good amount of cleavage. Where i come from, we usually see cleavage and dont think much of it. Anyways.. true or not, you also have to take into account other peoples cultures as well.

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My pants are not flat in real life, but nobody every gets upset at me.. I don't need a full blown 2 liter sized over exaggerated bulge leading the charge for my final fantasy shenanigans but it would be nice to have a more realistic lower half. One that doesn't seem overly sexualized or inappropriate, but just 'real', much unlike the ken-doll figures we have now. I would also like to see fatness and muscle size in player models as well as larger and smaller breast and booty options than what we currently have.. Just better variety in proportions in general would be great.

[ErryK]

hahahahaha, now we have come to the point where thinking low-key pixel bulges are fine is equal to misandry XD

The amount of sheer full-blown ridiculousness has really crossed the line here. I suggest you take your own advice and get a reality check because obviously YOU
cant get over not having a well-endowed pixel bulge in a game.

I've had my fair share of harassment ingame because of idiot players who can only think with their genitalia, so I do not need more of that crap by enhancing stupid and redundant features like bulges.
Because it is bound to happen. And all of that just so a few ERPers can run around naked with their bulges. Lol.

Sorry penises make you sad.
Why not take my advice and use the report feature and blacklist them?

Anyway, I'm out of this discussion.

Bye o/

Why not let everyone run around naked, jiggle effects and all then? Since they are only pixels after all right?

I hope you're realizing why your pixel argument is silly.

Pixels put together create images that can offend people or be inappropriate for a game. That's what ratings are for. Pixels have weight. Yoshi already had to think hard on whether or not he could allow players to smoke or drink.

Whether you want to believe it or not, a visually big penis is a sexual theme in media. Sorry it's how it is. For women, big bust, big butt? Sexual theme in media. It's how it is. Don't act like it doesn't exist.

Allowing players to have a big bulge so you can see it outlined in your underwear or pants is a sexual theme.

If you paint an image of something offensive/inappropriate you can't say "Lol chill it's just paint". No doesn't work like that. The paint created an image that has a meaning. Same goes for pixels.

You make a good point, but as far as I'm concerned, if someone with a big bulge walks up to you, and you find it uncomfortable, you can teleport away. If someone harasses you, there are locations where you can go such as a locked FC house, apartment, FC room or log out entirely to avoid them. You can blacklist them, report them. What is the point of a report feature if the game coddles you 100% of the time, that would be inane.

EDIT: Also Faliandra had a good point with how you bash her about taking pixels seriously. But look at you.

What about me? I bash her mostly because she insinuated I am insecure about my masculinity that I require a bulge slider to validate it. Sorry, but that's just plain rude and uncalled for, and if she's going to be happy and positive about it not being in the game, and that my masculinity is going to "take a hit", even more reason to fight for it, because I'd love to see a "useless/meaningless" thing in the game that would make her unhappy that she never got her fairy glamours and couple emotes which are just as meaningless and useless.

The pixels argument isn't that strong, you're right about that, but I've already explained myself why I'm so worked up about Faliandra's posts.

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Well what else could they add to the races that already do have a muscle slider (ie. Roegadyn, Hyur Midlander and Highlander) if all the rest of the races got it? There would be an imbalance in sliders since, Au Ra and Miqo'te have their tail slider, and Lalafell and Elezen have their ear slider.

In the end, I would argue rather than a slider, just change the meshes to appear less flat. It's like having all the breasts in a game be A-cup size.

[Benjo]

If you want to support both butt and bulge sliders for Stormblood hit the Like-button on the linked post.

[Rysir]

We saints row now?
Anyway funny enough it would take a good bit of work to implement since all current pants equipment would need to get an edit to allow this character detail since its not all automatic.

Also it would be exactly like bust size which currently not all gear is equal with what you can call "true bust size", for example take a highlander female with max bust size and see them in the starter gear or a cowl and now put them in the Brand new robe and watch them shrink a lot.

This would also apply to a bulge option if for some reason added and as such it would literally not apply to any gear without edits and even if the edit happens it wont show up at all on quite a bit of gear and only be visible when in your underwear.

Overall its not even worth considering.

[Kewitt]

Outside of hair, I can't see them add character customization. The butt sider has a lot more people up in arms.

[Benjo]

For odd reasons the Abe's pants increases the bulge size on my character. I haven't checked the effects on bust size since I only have a low level female alt character which I use seldom.