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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sollux View Post
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    WOOH!!! How did you do so many steps??!!!!
    Just keep using Whistle & CZ, do naked hasties, take all tricks, and continue to MM2 & Nymeia's wheel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    WOOH!!! How did you do so many steps??!!!!
    Just keep using Whistle & CZ, do naked hasties, take all tricks, and continue to MM2 & Nymeia's wheel?
    Pretty much, I believe I used WWYW at least 3 times during both rotations. On the 35 Dura I actually could have kept going had I not instinctually transitioned to BB phase D:

    This was done back when I was testing Specialist skills and their worth, before I had any 2-Star accessories for the extra CP. Long story short, they're powerful, but only if you understand the skills and have some luck with Goods. Unfortunately there are a lot of things that the descriptions don't mention such as the success rate for the WWYW completion step, or are worded poorly like the fact that if you lose your last Whistle stack it will immediately attempt the WWYW Progress increase on the next step, meaning if you have 10 Durability left and it won't complete it you will fail the Craft.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sollux View Post
    Unfortunately there are a lot of things that the descriptions don't mention such as the success rate for the WWYW completion step, or are worded poorly like the fact that if you lose your last Whistle stack it will immediately attempt the WWYW Progress increase on the next step, meaning if you have 10 Durability left and it won't complete it you will fail the Craft.
    You're referring to the auto action "Finishing Touches" at W-stack zero, which I also find it more of a hassle than help. Not only does it pre-maturely completes the item for you, but it can also fail since it's not a 100% fidelity action. And the name was pretty rihtahted too (see what I did there?)... there's only 1 action, so why using plural "touches"? Also, it's a progress action, so it should be called "Finishing Synthesis" instead. XD

    Speaking of Rihtahtyn, we recently helped a FC member on Cape Westwind, and that poor guy couldn't last 15 seconds... LMAOOOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    Not only does it pre-maturely completes the item for you, but it can also fail since it's not a 100% fidelity action.
    I believe the success rate is something like 50%. It basically felt like a rapid synthesis whenever you ran out of stacks. I'm wondering if ingenuity / steady hand II would have an effect on it :O
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    and here I was, going in to this thread expecting something else from "naked crafting challenge" >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
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    The amount of testing and insight one has to have to really learn what the Specialist Actions do without a guide is extremely high, which IMO contradicts their whole intent to be casual-Crafter friendly. I don't want to hijack your post and turn it into a Specialist discussion, I did do some testing on the skills themselves before Red Scrips were introduced and I put it in a thread on Reddit here (This was before I visited the OF). I haven't updated it since Red Scrips released, but if you can use any of it for your guide feel free to do so, though I'm sure you've likely already gotten all of the info I had at the time.

    Oh, also, keep in mind that Heart of the Crafter (The skill that increases the chance of a Good appearing) CAN run it's full duration without a single Good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sollux View Post
    Oh, also, keep in mind that Heart of the Crafter (The skill that increases the chance of a Good appearing) CAN run it's full duration without a single Good.
    SE really needs to fix that skill... It's absolutely rihtahted that one would spent 45 CP plus a delineation and possibly get "nothing" out of it. For now, that skill should be named as "Garbage of the Crafter".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    SE really needs to fix that skill... It's absolutely rihtahted that one would spent 45 CP plus a delineation and possibly get "nothing" out of it. For now, that skill should be named as "Garbage of the Crafter".
    Yeah, if it guaranteed at least 2 Goods I could likely fit it into a rotation along with other Specialist skills but after all of my testing I concluded that while the skills CAN be a powerful tool for those with limited options they are neither casual friendly nor consistent enough to trust on a high-level Craft.
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    oh gods. To me, this is like... hell. But I'm sitting here staring at it like, "I wonder... can I do that..."
    Please god. Help me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malicewolf View Post
    oh gods. To me, this is like... hell. But I'm sitting here staring at it like, "I wonder... can I do that..."
    Please god. Help me.
    For some reason, you reminded me of Jerry Mcguire...
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