Strength Tanks

[Miles_Maelstrom]

Sorry to detract from the convo, but could I ask for a bit of clarification. When we are talking about a tank gearing for strength we are only talking about the non-aesthetic pieces right (belt and accessories) or is there some way to get endgame strength favoring main pieces? (weapon, helm, body, etc.)

[kensatsu]

only accesories

[Torunya]

I see the word "optimal" used quite frequently.

Now I'm all for doing your class as well as you can and all, but I'm concerned at the alarming number of aggressive reactions to anyone not hopping on the Str train. Not everyone plays a game to get a 100% completionist achievement. I understand that the math was done long ago and the discussion on Str vs Vit is moot at this point, but is doing a sub-optimal run of anything really that disasterous? I mean honestly. It seems to me like a lot of aggressive players advocating full Str builds are the kind of people who are inherently terrified of doing anything ever unless its done in the most flawless way possible.

Calm down, it's just a game. A damn good game, but still.

[Mimilu]

You guys do see that this person is on an ALT character with their only class being a level 1 GLA, right? >w>

[Lucke]

Words

The only time I can somewhat understand going with STR is for like, endgame savage where you're trying to squeeze every last damage point to beat a DPS check (but then again, maybe you should look at the DPS for failing the DPS check instead of the tank...). If your end game consists of nothing but your daily roulettes and maybe an EX primal, VIT works just fine. I just wish SE would come out and say how they're changing up tank stats already. I built my PLD as the traditional full turtle DEF spec tank, all VIT. I don't have any trouble keeping hate, even on big pulls, and PLD AoE enmity is the worst of all the tanks. Well, that's not true, if the DPS blows all their +ATK cooldowns at the start before I have a chance to do much enmity gen, I'll lose it, but then I can grab it right back.

[Grant_Wilshire]

The problem is when new players go to the tank forum and see a thread like this at the top of the page, and thus see this ranting post and assume that it's correct. It's on a forum, it's got lots of replies, it has to be correct surely. Unfortunately the only way to correct the post is to reply to the thread... which keeps the circle going. Same thing happens regularly in Balmung /shout in Idyllshire where certain uninformed tank trolls try to convince the playerbase that full vit is the only way to go and you're a failure if you even think about turning on sword oath.

Balancing a desire to not fan trollish flames vs a real desire to HELP the community and make newer tanks better at their job is not an easy task when people like OP post threads like this.

All of these rant threads about Tanks really makes me scared of what I have signed on for.

[Malicewolf]

All of these rant threads about Tanks really makes me scared of what I have signed on for.

Don't worry little one. You'll be fine, just keep learning Most will be helpful to you, a few will be obnoxious. Just be sure not to confuse someone giving advice as them being condescending (sometimes they are, but most of the time they are just honestly trying to help you improve).

As for those who are saying what's the big deal about optimization, its simple. People don't like wasting their time. Now, why they say these things in regular dungeons or even hard trials, I don't see the point either. But in extreme trials and raids, I can understand a bit. They usually waited a while for queue times and they most likely don't want to sit through the same content for 3+ hours waiting for a good team because people keep failing due to not being able to meet DPS checks. Now, understanding mechanics will always be more optimal than anyone who doesn't know what their doing. For instance, knowing HOW to do RavanaEx as a minimum ilvl will be much better than someone full eso geared without a clue. Some people obviously take things too far into the extreme though.

[HoodRat]

If your end game consists of nothing but your daily roulettes and maybe an EX primal, VIT works just fine.

A bad tank is going to die regardless of which accessories they're using. And a bad healer is going to fail at keeping you alive regardless of which accessories you're using.

Going full vit works fine if you're good. But if you're good, you don't even need any vit.

[kensatsu]

wait just one month and wait the stat change, seriously i never say to somebody he have to gear vit or str.
i can't understand why players expect every tanks to be geared in str, also everyone don't use tank as main job. so just do as you wish (i said this many times XD)

[AlexiIvaniskavich]

@grant
you say rant threads, I say passion threads!

of course i hope that any newer tank who has come to this thread will realize that the OP was in full troll mode. Despite that there has been some reasonable discussions that have occured on the life of the thread. The strength v. vitality debate is probably as devisive as the informal poll I did recently on Chewy v. Crispy Bacon. (friendships are possibly forever lost).

Can you have your tank (or bacon) either way? Of course you can. Is one way inherently wrong - to the point of being avoided like the plague? No.