Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
I mentioned nothing at all about not doing damage.
You replied to a post that said:

"If you want to turtle up and play super defensively, then that's fine, but if you do this don't be upset when other players choose not to play the way you do."

with:

"If you want to maximize DPS, switch to a DPS job, and let the real tanks play this specific turtley way."

Now... maybe you were being absurdist, or were trying to take things to a logical extreme, or maybe you misinterpreted the post - but from my PoV, that's the exchange that was had. Based on that exchange, I felt like you were wrong, in that a real tank isn't so single minded (focuses solely on DPS or focuses solely on mitigation), they take all 3 factors into account to maximize the potential that your group will kill the boss. This doesn't necessarily mean always being in DPS stance, full Slaying, etc - it varies from situation to situation, but the point is that you're doing as much DPS with what you have available.

If your gripe is, instead, with people who prioritize DPS over their ability to stay alive, then that's fair enough and I agree - there have been a surplus of STR tanks who don't understand the risks/rewards of it lately and that's lead to a mass misunderstanding of the STR meta that's been evolving since early 2.0. If the devs choose to make VIT the STR/DEX/MND/INT equivalent then that still won't actually solve the issue, however it will give the healers slightly more room for error which is probably the best result we can hope for.