Strength Tanks

[Enesuia]

You spec full Vit and pull with voke? Do you just never run 8 man content? I guarantee I'd end up ripping hate and being MT (since you couldn't voke back) as OT before I even realized what happened.

Voke has 25y good pull, but do you really think you can out threat me after Scorn/Shield lob/ Spirits then finish off my Halone? I do get 2 off set CDS that don't connect with my Halone combo CD, I also do have Flash... Seriously. LEARN YOUR THREAT GENERATION!. -___- Then theres my Def Abilities that generate more Threat point actions... unless you don't know that any ability generates a threat point?....

P.S. Make it happen, don't just say it. Talk is cheap.

[fm_fenrir]

Voke has 25y good pull, but do you really think you can out threat me after Scorn/Shield lob/ Spirits then finish off my Halone? I do get 2 off set CDS that don't connect with my Halone combo CD, I also do have Flash... Seriously. LEARN YOUR THREAT GENERATION!. -___- Then theres my Def Abilities that generate more Threat point actions... unless you don't know that any ability generates a threat point?....

It's more that if you need provoke immediately after (read: Berserk WAR spamming Butcher's for hot deeps), you're going to be very sad because you can't. Provoke is for tank swaps and recovering from a burst DPS peeling away from you, not for pulling.

[kensatsu]

provoke is not a enmity skill, it's a skill to recover aggro from someone else, pull with provoke is useless and will not provide more enemity

[Jamillion]

Voke has 25y good pull, but do you really think you can out threat me after Scorn/Shield lob/ Spirits then finish off my Halone? I do get 2 off set CDS that don't connect with my Halone combo CD, I also do have Flash... Seriously. LEARN YOUR THREAT GENERATION!. -___- Then theres my Def Abilities that generate more Threat point actions... unless you don't know that any ability generates a threat point?....

P.S. Make it happen, don't just say it. Talk is cheap.

Actually genius, I'm positive my War would rip hate off of you within the first 30 seconds of a full party duty. Obviously you don't know anything about running full party duties or you'd know that a War OT's optimal rotation involves using our threat gen combo liberally. I rip hate off of pallys that aren't complete garbage routinely. You wasting provoke means I'd have to drop like 3 full GCDs (probably more) for you to get hate back. If you had provoke off cooldown I'd only waste one. Since I'm not going to waste time stroking your ego though I would just MT at that point.

[whiskeybravo]

I also do have Flash... Seriously. LEARN YOUR THREAT GENERATION!

Lol for days on this xD

Ene you don't stand a chance against any tank wearing str. It's just a numbers game. If you can produce enough threat to keep a dps or healer from peeling off, that's fine, it's all you need really. But threat works off multipliers from damage, so if your RoH does 1000 damage and my war BB does 3000 damage, it's just a numbers game you can't possibly catch up.

Voke can be used for longer pulls, sure, but that's not what it's for. It's a threat copy, you use it for tank swaps or when a healer or dps rips off you. Generally you can "get away" with using it if you are fast enough to shield lob or do something after you use it, but you can't just use it and expect it to hold hate for any amount of time. It won't, that's not what it's for. And as Spooky pointed out, if you use it on a pull then you won't have it for 40 some odd seconds in case you do need again.