Strength Tanks

[Marianno]

Thank you for identifying yourself, St Marianno. I will make sure to abandon the party as soon as I see your name appear in the party list.

I honestly do not care if you do. Bottom line is, use the cooldowns if your going str based tanking. Do not step into a dungeon if you do not want to use cooldowns. That is my opinion, take from that what you will.

[AlexiIvaniskavich]

I honestly do not care if you do. Bottom line is, use the cooldowns if your going to be tanking. Do not step into a dungeon if you do not want to use cooldowns. That is my opinion, take from that what you will.

*edited that for you

VIT or STR - use a bloody cool down.

[Lan_Mantear]

I honestly do not care if you do. Bottom line is, use the cooldowns if your going str based tanking. Do not step into a dungeon if you do not want to use cooldowns. That is my opinion, take from that what you will.

My issue with you is your opinion that if a tank doesn't use the gear you, as a healer, desires, you will hold them hostage by not healing. That's tasteless in my opinion.

In regards to using cool downs. That is the norm and not an exception. I'm not going to congratulate a tank for doing something he should already be doing. It'd be as stupid as high-fiving a healer each time he throws Cure my direction.

As to the original topic. VIT or STR gear, in the end doesn't matter. Its the player that will make it work. If you don't know how to use your CDs or how to manage hate on multiple targets, you'll still be horrible even if you have nothing but VIT gear on.

STR becomes the clear winner when player skill is at a certain standard and is no longer part of the equation.

[Marianno]

Again my ultimate issue is still, use of cooldowns, if your taking more damage than I can heal then I won't struggle to heal you. Use the cooldowns, NOW. i won't beg or plead with you. If you want to wear str gear, that is fine then. USE THE COOLDOWNS OR DIE. I'm not going to beg or plead with you. Learn how to keep the hate in your str gear if your pulling multiple enemies. Perhaps it is better if I stated my ultimate issue with this before clicking submit and not proofreading.

[Ashkendor]

I honestly do not care if you do. Bottom line is, use the cooldowns if your going str based tanking. Do not step into a dungeon if you do not want to use cooldowns. That is my opinion, take from that what you will.

Funny, cause you didn't say anything about cooldowns in your last post at all:

I can't help but agree with OP. I especially hate seeing any tank in full strength gear and not using tank stance. Lately, I've this a lot on PLD but on a lot of tanks in general. If I ask them to put on vit gear and they refuse then, I purposely let them die when in a dungeon when I play healer and see this. I know this is the wrong attitude because it wipes the party every time, but some people need to be taught a lesson in humility the hard way. Tired of this foolishness.

I hate to tell you this, but refusing to heal the tank doesn't teach them "a lesson in humility," it just negatively impacts the group and slows down the run. Griefing like this wouldn't make me put on VIT jewelry. It'd make me kick you from the dungeon.

As PLD, I do trash packs in Shield Oath and bosses in Sword Oath. As WAR, I do a lot more stance dancing.

Again my ultimate issue is still, use of cooldowns, if your taking more damage than I can heal then I won't struggle to heal you. Use the cooldowns, NOW. i won't beg or plead with you. If you want to wear str gear, that is fine then. USE THE COOLDOWNS OR DIE. I'm not going to beg or plead with you.

This is a 'bad tank' issue, not a 'STR tank' issue. If you've got a bad tank, yes a bad VIT tank is marginally easier to heal than a bad STR tank. I haven't had problems on any of the three tank classes; then again, I tend to wear my melds when I venture into DF without a healer friend in tow because I'm sick of lazy/bad healers letting me die even when I'm using cd's and pulling reasonably.

Learn how to keep the hate in your str gear if your pulling multiple enemies.

STR makes it easier to keep hate though, so this seems kind of non sequitur...

Perhaps it is better if I stated my ultimate issue with this before clicking submit and not proofreading.

Yes, that's usually best.

I think a lot of PLDs are taking the "you do the worst tank DPS" thing as a challenge, so they're the most likely to be trying to prove that statement wrong. Personally, I've always stacked STR because I'm too lazy to build two separate sets of accessories for four jobs, and never really had a problem with being too soft to heal.

It's not a matter of trying to prove it wrong. Anyone still playing Paladin at this point basically has to accept the fact that it's by far the lowest DPS tank. That doesn't mean we hang it up and go full VIT. We equip STR accessories for the same reasons as DRK/WAR players, just with lower numbers and a clunkier kit. Generally speaking, we're trying to get the most out of the class we enjoy playing.

Not to mention it's nice to be able to kill shit in the open world while leveling without feeling like you're beating it with a wet noodle.

[Aomine1992]

OP I think this is more so situational as Savage requires STR tanks or you won't even make that enrage time unless dps are over geared...

Casual content doesn't really call for a STR tanking unless you want to get done faster which is like maybe 3-5 mins faster depending on dps

Me personally I have always used 3 str accs and 2 vit accs and my points are half and half STR and VIT just because I do like to dmg as a tank even though it's not my primary job but by no means will I go full STR everything as I've seen those tanks who's hp is lower then my DRG lol but at the end of the day it's all about knowing your CDs and enmity rotations...tanking isn't difficult either way