Strength Tanks

[Velox]

Sadly, that just doesn't exist, so instead we have healing DPS, tanking DPS, and full DPS.

At this juncture in the game, the only way to solve the problem is to rehaul the system.

1. Make accessories job-locked like gear.
2. Make healer and tank stances work like AST stances (once you enter combat, you can't switch).

I will bathe in the glorious healer and tank tears.

[cgbspender]

Had a tank an hour ago in A2. Weapon 205, left side 210. Right side 210 full STR. He just couldn't survive the trash mobs despite both healers spamming cure 2 / eye for an eye regen, asylum and whatever they have, even after they had to resort using Tetra and bene side to side. Healers were i200/205. And they were really good.

STR jewels should only be the monopoly of good tanks, dare I say fabulous ?

The problem is, all tanks think they are awesome at their job even when most of times THEY ARE NOT.

[Bashum]

It's snotty people like this that are the reason why I quit tanking. How about just letting people play how they're comfortable already

The reason people are so snotty is quite frankly, the holier than thou attitude of the OP who is gonna come in here and set us all straight, when they obviously have no clue what they're talking about.

[VanilleFang]

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There should be an in game test to determine if a tank is fabulous enough to equip STR jewels. Erozea's Next Top Tank?

[abzoluut]

It's snotty people like this that are the reason why I quit tanking. How about just letting people play how they're comfortable already

Didn't the OP just do the exact same thing: telling people how to play? What a foudroyant reply on your part.

People should indeed play how they want to. At the end of the day we can choose who to play with mostly. DF is somewhat a surprise who you will end up with though. Then again, DF content isn't exactly impossible when you run in to one of them VIT hero tanks.

I just hope new/starting tanks will try to figure out how tanks work on there own and try to filter random "advice".

[Martin_Arcainess]

I saw a funny pic on Facebook today and I thought that was the funniest image I'd seen all day....until I read this XD

[BeeWise]

It's snotty people like this that are the reason why I quit tanking. How about just letting people play how they're comfortable already

You know you're saying this on a thread where the OP is literally telling people not to play how they're comfortable, right? RIGHT? Do you NOT see your own hypocrisy?

[Ashkendor]

Please stop, there is no sane reason why a tank should slot points into strength instead of vitality. You having less or the same hp as a dps is not an effective tank build because a dead tank does zero dps.

Having a bloated HP pool doesn't improve tank DPS either, and doesn't really improve survivability by much once you're past a certain threshold. You shouldn't have less HP than a DPS anyway unless that DPS is more geared than you.

If you say that you hold hate better then you must never flash or taunt , seriously if you do your threat generation rotation properly you will hold hate and once again when you die due to your low hp your threat generation goes to zero.

Strength really does help for a Paladin when you're pulling a raid boss and the DPS are expected to open up a can of whoopass right off the bat. I have a serious dislike for tanking in full VIT gear now and would sooner spend the money for melds. When I pull in full Fending, I always feel like I'm riding the bleeding edge of hate throughout the opening phase of the fight whether I actually am or not.

It is not a healers responsibility to spend an insane amount of time and mana keeping you alive when you choose not to talent properly, it's like healing a dps that thinks he is a tank.

It's not at all like that, because a tank's defense values are significantly higher and they have defensive cooldowns.

VIT doesn't raise your defense at all. It just bloats your HP pool.

In conclusion is you want to play a dps class then roll one otherwise learn to play as the role you selected which means you are there to take damage not cause massive damage to mobs and die in the process.

If you do it right you can cause massive damage to mobs and not die in the process.

Defensive cooldowns. Learn to use them. Learn to love them.

[Kabooa]

Had a tank an hour ago in A2. Weapon 205, left side 210. Right side 210 full STR. He just couldn't survive the trash mobs despite both healers spamming cure 2 / eye for an eye regen, asylum and whatever they have, even after they had to resort using Tetra and bene side to side. Healers were i200/205. And they were really good.

STR jewels should only be the monopoly of good tanks, dare I say fabulous ?

The problem is, all tanks think they are awesome at their job even when most of times THEY ARE NOT.

...Savage?

Because people were tanking like that back when it was i190 in savage.

So your options were it was the tank, or it was the healers, or it was the DPS not killing things.

Throwing 4k hit points onto that tank wouldn't make him easier to heal. It would have just given you about .5 seconds of breathing room.

[Twilite]

High HP just gives a healer an illusion that they have health to play with to provide them more DPS time.