Strength Tanks

[Malicewolf]

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You said it yourself. The 2nd tank used cooldowns sometimes. Meaning he wasn't being an optimal STR tank. And being STR tank requires you to be optimal to make it efficient. VIT isn't easier to heal. Infact, it's HARDER to heal because the hp pool is bigger, making your heals look worse. It's simply the fact that you have a bigger buffer which makes it "safer" as you have more time for the healer to derp around before having to heal you. For a good tank, it really doesn't matter which set they use. They will still be a good tank. Whether they are an optimal tank is another story.

[Blitzace]

First mistake, Two different dungeons. Correct me if i'm wrong but vault is quite healer intensive to begin with. espescially compared with Dusk Vigil...
Second of all, you're comparing two different tanks. You should compare the same tank(You can use your fc) And use both full str & full vit.

Difference is unreal for most dungeons/trials/raids its not even needed to use ANY vit what so ever.

[Berzullha]

Why are people using things like Dusk Vigil and Vault to defend their stance? Honestly STR or VIT dosn't even matter until you hit Thorden EX and Alex Savage. Before that your stats really don't matter.

Once you get into Savage btw having more HP than you need is just a waste of stats. For example Hypercompressed Plasma is going to hit you for 20-25k unmitigated anyway so unless you have almost 30KHP (which I don't think is possible yet) having more than 16-18k HP really wont help you.

[Immut]

Why are people using things like Dusk Vigil and Vault to defend their stance? Honestly STR or VIT dosn't even matter until you hit Thorden EX and Alex Savage. Before that your stats really don't matter.

Once you get into Savage btw having more HP than you need is just a waste of stats. For example Hypercompressed Plasma is going to hit you for 20-25k unmitigated anyway so unless you have almost 30KHP (which I don't think is possible yet) having more than 16-18k HP really wont help you.

It does matter. Str makes for faster clears. faster = better. You could make the argument that being bad at the game doesn't matter until endgame raiding too, but that doesn't mean they aren't still bad at the game.

[Uhm]

Hmm, I admit comparing two different dungeons makes it a little invalid. But I stand with my point that I've never met a good strength tank before, meaning that I don't like the thought of not so high level people (like myself) running around like that. The only time I had a similar experiance was with a really undergeared tank (The Vault).
With "easier to heal" I'm not talking about keeping them at full health at all times it's just esier to predict the damage, and only when I can predict that the tank doesn't die in the next 3 seconds can I dps as well, which is nice.
I actually don't see many strength tanks though, it would be cool to get one that makes me go "Well, that was a fun run!" some day. With tanks that have mostly Vit stuff I just assume they have their points in strength. At least that's what I do.
I find it funny that people get so defensive about this, all three things are possible and this is really just an "my opinion is the only one that matters" discussion.

[Jamillion]

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No, it's simple math really, considering equal skill, class and relevant gear 25% more tank DPS will always be a bigger contribution than the one heal buffer provided by fending. Stop using your own admittedly invalid experiences to argue against simple fact.

[Uhm]

No, it's simple math really, considering equal skill, class and relevant gear 25% more tank DPS will always be a bigger contribution than the one heal buffer provided by fending. Stop using your own admittedly invalid experiences to argue against simple fact.

Meh, if I don't make my mistakes openly here where people can correct me if they please I don't learn. I'd rather make mistakes and admit to them than believing that everything I say is a 100% fact. All I'm saying is I like that heal buffer cause I don't see tanks often who actually use their cooldowns correctly.

Should i call every single VIT player bad now?

I never called every Str tank bad if thats what you wanted to bring across with that. I even said I would be happy to get a good one some day, I just never did up until now. I had a ton of bad Vit ones too but I actually don't see many tanks loosing hate lately and if they do then again it's mostly skill if they are not outgeared.

[Blitzace]

The point is you can't compare the DMG you get from some bosses/mobs in difference dungeons thats just stupid... i could say the same thing just switch STR&VIT and all off the sudded the STR person in Dusk is godlike, Cause you'll have less trouble keeping up a good str tank than a full vit tank in Vault.

No one can't deny that VIT at this point is 99% useless. And once again. STR or VIT do what ever you like, Just don't think that VIT makes a bad STR tank a good one when he switches over. Not gonna happen

[Blitzace]

No its not Uhm,

I stated multiple times people can do what ever they want STR or VIT. i don't care, It the end it just doesn't justify the lose of DMG for more HP. i never had a issue keeping people up full STR besides the bad tanks that don't use cooldowns or don't know how to use t hem and even then i could usually keep em up. I run full STR on all three tanks and i rarely swap em out in the rare occassion that i do i will need the extra HP. But as it stands right now there is no need for DMG loss for more HP. might make the healer feel more comfortable, but thats just a mind trick. Had a warrior today actually. full vit, was losing hate to me as a healer... i mean come on. Should i call every single VIT player bad now? Nope. But he wasn't doing his job right,

No cooldowns, no overpower, barely any flash was used. IL around 190 running LV60 roulette, i find it more funny that people actually defend VIT as it is right now. But once again, if people wanna run full vit, mix or full STR. what ever makes them happy as long as they do their job as a tank.

[Blitzace]

Would also like to add, I've been helping FC buddies through out dungeons(Talking about 44-60 dungeons here)

never once did i gave them a easy time and went with fending gear. Never did they had a issue hell, For fun sometimes i didn't even explain mechanics to see how they did. They passed with flying colors.
So as i said before in this thread, a bad STR tank will not make a good VIT tank.