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    UmJammerSully's Avatar
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    Bam Sully
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    The community of WoW and the community of FFXIV are very different and the stories you're telling us tell us more about what your average WoW player is like and not what the adverse effects of the dungeon finder are.

    I party with random people all the time and 9 times out of 10 they are decent enough people. However, you are probably right about people not giving away drops they don't really need but that seems like a small price to pay to have a super quick partying system.

    EDIT: For the record, I've never played WoW myself and I'm just going by what I've heard, which is probably unfair.
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    Rhianu Esparta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    My personal experience with WOW's dungeon finder was the complete opposite. Aside from one out of every 40-50 groups, everyone was willing to both cooperate and talk if you were respectful and people were willing to work with me when I was new to a dungeon.

    The trick, like anywhere else in life, is to be the first to be nice.
    ^This. If you're willing to just talk to people and listen, you'll find things will tend to go a lot smoother.

    Quote Originally Posted by UmJammerSully View Post
    the stories you're telling us tell us more about what your average WoW player is like
    Wow, way to discriminate. There are good and bad people in every community, and I'm honestly quite sick of everyone jumping on the "WoW players are all idiots" train. It's not true, and it never was. If everyone in WoW seemed like a jerk to you, it's probably because you were being a jerk to everyone else. Like Wolfie pointed out, people are willing to treat you with as much respect as you treat them. If you treat other people with respect, you will receive respect in return. It's that simple.
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    Don't we already have a 'content finder?'

    It's called a Map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    Don't we already have a 'content finder?'

    It's called a Map.
    Fun fact: FFXI also had an auto-group function, but it sucked so hard nobody used it.
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    Evenstar Wanderlust
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    First of all I really want to say "great post". People may agree or not, but this is the way a post should be! Giving an opinion with examples and no /cry sentences at all!

    Dungeon Finder got good and bad sides, as all things have. It makes you wait less, but it also attracts a lot of idiots for the reasons you mentioned. There is no social control, so people just act like total ass hats.
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    And, let's remember that a lot of the people who use this feature are those who can't find regular parties and groups themselves due to their poor behavior and rudeness.

    Dungeon Finder is like a concentrator for bad players to get together with each other; a tough situation to consistently enjoy. But, it'll hardly be REQUIRED, so if you don't like it, I guess you don't have to use it...
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    Evenstar Wanderlust
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    Because of the reasons mentioned in this topic I actually never ever used the DF in WoW. I always did runs with my guild or no runs .. I just was not capable of dealing with random people that were complete jerks 90% of the time.
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    Khaien Akiyama
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    I love random people parties, I've often had the most fun in them... but I wouldn't use a dungeon finder unless I felt like being anti-social and not speaking unless absolutely necessary. I like random parties because I can MAKE friends. I wouldn't want to risk meeting someone on another server that I wanted to be friends with and then couldn't play the game with them. That'd be sad. :x

    So on the rare chance I'd use the finder, I'd be just another "NPC" adding to the silence.


    I'd prefer SE would just make a really awesome in-server party finder.
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    Tamako Lalako
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    I agree with you.

    I quit WoW because everyone at end level sat in Stormwind waiting for heroics.. and too many times would I join a group and have some guy either 'need' on everyone's loot (which he didn't need at all ><) or leave the group because he stuffed up but blamed the rest of us instead.
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    It is clear and obvious that getting put in a random party with people you never met and likely will never meet again is not the ideal scenario to socialise or make friends. So what? I don't join a random dungeon to make friends, I join it to get my stuff done, get levels, get gear. I could care less if people want to discuss their life story or stfu the whole run. I think this is the major selling point of dungeon finder, you get your stuff done with no ties and no commitments, and as cold as that may sound that is in fact why most people love it.

    However, If you are the type of person that NEEDS to socialize with their party members, then by all means don't use dungeon finder and go shout in Uldah if that's what floats your boat (or use new Player search feature).

    What I really don't get about a lot of threads like this is... This is an optional feature. It makes your life easy. If you are a masochist(in my opinion) and decide not to use it then great for you! But why do you want the rest of us, who do like the feature, to not use it either?
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