A3S nerfs incoming

[KarstenS]

A3S kills can be pugged.

Odin is right after the legacy server Ragnarok the most popular EU raiding server.

I don't have seen any A3S/A4S PUGs within the last month. No practise groups. No kill groups.

Sometimes a static is looking for a filler. But nothing else.

[Avidria]

Of course you can, being on gilgamesh. It's like saying that you can pug AS3/4 on chocobo. But on "normal raiding scene" servers, AS1 & AS2 are little miracles when they are downed with pugs (and by that I mean real, random pugs, not selected few in LSs). And the fact that there is a raiding exodus on other servers (gilgamesh, odin...) doesn't help.

I hardly ever see anything related to as3 at all on Diabalos and when I do it's a static looking for someone (who already has experience) to fill. I think I've seen that...twice, maybe? I'm not sure I've ever seen as4 mentioned at all, outside of this one guy who posted that he's selling clears of pretty much everything for a bit. Haven't seen him in a while, though.

Heck, I've never even seen an as1/as2 learning or clear group on my server. Just statics looking for (usually one) replacement or just recruiting for their static in general. It may be possible, but as far as I can tell, no one ever bothers to try.

[Brannigan]

Diadem killed savage

[Adylala]

Whatever but I hope its not a big nerf. I dont want the game to become boring

[Melch]

Diadem killed savage

No, Diadem killed itself.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Diadem killed savage

Yeah, that Diadem 210 gear with lousy RNG bonus stats sure killed it.

[ForbiddenMonk]

Diadem killed savage

no, 95% killed savage. the other 5% cleared savage

[zosia]

no, 95% killed savage. the other 5% cleared savage

more like 0.1% cleared savaged

[Xatsh]

What killed savage was itself.

The fight is too overtunned for this style of game. It does not matter if people clear it or not... no fight should require the average endgame group to spend 600+ hrs of practice to clear it. The bragging rights of WE killed this hard fight is not why most endgame players do endgame. Savage caused such a toxic atmosphere not only did people stop doing the content it is driving people out of this game.

The content is shortlived (less then 1 year of being top tier gear)... so the majority of raiders are not willing to spend that much time to get gear that is Glamour 2-3 months after they get it. Hell I consider myself a hardcore endgame player in every other mmo I played dedicating nearly 30-40 hours a week doing endgame progression content alone, and I even call savage a waste of time. Why should I waste that much time bashing my head against the wall day in and day out when in 2month the gear will be worthless vendor trash.

Normal coil was the maximum difficulty the game should of been, considering content has a 1/2yr life cycle. IT was challenging but people could clear it in a reasonable time considering the life cycle of the content. IT was a garbage design but a hell of alot more balanced then it is now. Savage should of remained title only.

Oh and alex normal does not replace normal coil for those that argue that. IT is a pathetic joke which a group of 8yr olds could clear without much difficulty.

[zosia]

What killed savage was itself.

The fight is too overtunned for this style of game. It does not matter if people clear it or not... no fight should require the average endgame group to spend 600+ hrs of practice to clear it. The bragging rights of WE killed this hard fight is not why most endgame players do endgame. Savage caused such a toxic atmosphere not only did people stop doing the content it is driving people out of this game.The content is shortlived (less then 1 year of being top tier gear)... so the majority of raiders are not willing to spend that much time to get gear that is Glamour 2-3 months after they get it. Hell I consider myself a hardcore endgame player in every other mmo I played dedicating nearly 30-40 hours a week doing endgame progression content alone, and I even call savage a waste of time. Why should I waste that much time bashing my head against the wall day in and day out when in 2month the gear will be worthless vendor trash.

Normal coil was the maximum difficulty the game should of been, considering content has a 1/2yr life cycle. IT was challenging but people could clear it in a reasonable time considering the life cycle of the content. IT was a garbage design but a hell of alot more balanced then it is now. Savage should of remained title only.

Oh and alex normal does not replace normal coil for those that argue that. IT is a pathetic joke which a group of 8yr olds could clear without much difficulty.

Pretty much this, not to mention that you can still get the same gear appearance from just doing normal, so the only perk to having done savage glamour wise is the dye factor.