A3S nerfs incoming

[zosia]

So why would inconvieniencing the audience that is clearing and partaking in normal difficulty help the raider crowd that is breaking on savage content? That's not an improvement. That's going back to shutting people out of the experience altogether.

Because it won't trivialize half of the raiding rewards from day one? Like the gear's appearance? Just raid normal and get the look. Like the story? Just raid normal and get that too.

There are sooooo little incentives for raiding right now that people have to server transfer to gilgamesh just to have a hope at getting a full savage clear. The only incentive for clearing raid content in this game is a titleless achievement

And that 6 weeks is $15+ that they may not have seen otherwise had they not included the content, no? Even numbered patches have what, 2 dungeons and Esoteric grinding for the casual audience. You're out of yourmind if you believe that's going to retain players, if we're talking longevity with content for the masses it would be best to do away with raid content altogether and create some absurd grind that no one enjoys. That's the thing, there's more to it then longevity or a grind, there's having fun. As difficult as it may be for you to imagine, people do have fun with Normal Mode Alexander and the Void Ark, the Void Ark is the most fun I've had in this game since I ran LoTA for the first time actually. If I've had fun and a good experience, I'll retain my subscription, if I'm forced to grind two dungeons for Esoteric gear that I may not like the appearance of I'll remain unsubscribed until the next part of the Sky Pirate series.

Only if people sub based on alex normal, which no one really does. Alex normal has been irrelevant for how many months now? Alex normal was invalidated months before 3.1 so I fail to see your point. These forums are littered with post from raider and non-raider alike stating how much they hate alex normal for one reason or another. Crap loot system, bad story, bad players, etc etc... you can pick which ever justification you like.

There is more to this game than eso grinding, just like you are making an argument that fun is some sort of aspect I don't consider. If casual players get bored of grinding esos, then they can do one of the many non-raiding activities available to them. Alex Normal was not the sole reason for sustaining ANYONE's sub past July, it had absolutely no staying power and you will not convince me otherwise. I don't believe for a single instance that alex normal stayed some large loss of casual players at the start of a brand new expansion.