A3S nerfs incoming

[Saccharin]

Sounds like most journalism these days.

I dont count people that write 'blogs' are journalists; too many idiots that call themselves journalists because they publish their opinion on the internet.

Oh, maybe I'm a journalist now.

The solution isn't to nerf existing content, but to add additional raids that are not quite as punishing.

No, it's not. This game doesn't have the playerbase like WoW has and in my opinion WoW's four difficulties are just too much.

Three bosses every 6 months does not make a raiding game and it never has been a raiding game it's just one of the avenues.

If people can't do savage as it is then those people are not hardcore raiders, 'simples'. The only viable way if SE want more people to raid savage is to make it a little easier, maybe to the level coil was before the nerfs.

But hey there is alex normal if savage is too hard.

Not all content needs to be cleared by everyone.

While true there has to be a certain amount of people to make it worth dev time. If SE nerf it then it's clearly not in their opinion.

[Yukiko]

Why to bother beating thordan for the stupid gear check if you need to learn the mechanic patterns in savage anyway?
You do not learn anything from thordan that can help in AS4, you just get a better weapon for the gearcheck in there...
Most players i know are upgrading their weekly eso while throwing their heads against the savage mechanics to learn them, even knowing they dont have the gear to beat it...

Alex savage was very bad for the community, i have never seen so many hatred just because DPS, not even coil was ever that bad.
Square Enix have to stop with the lockouts, it does not make any sense that players are not allowed to help others once cleared...
It is good that they try to stop winselling, but those restrictions are hitting the weak and not the selling players!

Edit:

(..) I have never in my life seen so many raid groups break apart and so many people quit raiding and even quit the game because they feel the raiding is just plain not fun

Of course I've also been playing MMO's so long that I can clearly remember when enrage timers were a very soft thing only put in place to prevent goofy tactics like kiting a boss through an entire zone while a single archer plunks away for an hour and a half.
The way they've transitioned into a hard time limit on every single encounter just seems like the laziest design choice possible

Even wildstar, the game advertised towards the 1% of the 1% super hardcore, didn't have stupidly tight enrage timers on bosses if they even had them at all

^this
The hardest content does not come from making tight timers or enrage the whole fight and let everyone preform "perfect" to unforgiving mechanics, its the "challenge" that attracts players and not the "impossibility"...
To overcome the challenge is fun and not to try something impossible (impossible does not mean unbeatable)... Climbing a wall is fun, not breaking through it with your head...

[Iamsomeone]

It's so cute how people keep whining about difficulty and are yet unwilling to improve... Jeessus, this game seriously has the baddest players I've ever seen. Ideology seems to be; " I want everything but I don't wanna work for it". Dem scrubs.

[Daenarys_Targaryen]

It's so cute how people keep whining about difficulty and are yet unwilling to improve... Jeessus, this game seriously has the baddest players I've ever seen. Ideology seems to be; " I want everything but I don't wanna work for it". Dem scrubs.

and unfortunately thats how its going to stay. Will be really stupid if they nerf Thordan in 3.15, only came out like yesterday jees. I can understand Alexander getting a nerf cause its crazy hard and making people quit. Made me quit raiding not cause of difficulty but going from coils with amazing story, great bosses, great mechanics etc. To Alexander where its really just DPS checks, with the same grey metal look to all bosses its so boring compared to Coils and just does not excite me into want to raid.

[Zojha]

Ideology seems to be; " I want everything but I don't wanna work for it".

Which is why I always say: Put "everything" into the cash shop. Progression shouldn't be affordable by people who don't work at least eight hours a day. You'll be much prouder of your new chestplate if you worked overtime for three weeks to be able to get it, too!

Or are you seriously suggesting people should instead put their physical and mental ressources into non-productive activities like video games? No, that's inefficient, you're being an economical scrub if you do. Those are only for chilling out "after" work.

*rolleyes*

[UBERHAXED]

Why to bother beating thordan for the stupid gear check if you need to learn the mechanic patterns in savage anyway?
You do not learn anything from thordan that can help in AS4, you just get a better weapon for the gearcheck in there...
Most players i know are upgrading their weekly eso while throwing their heads against the savage mechanics to learn them, even knowing they dont have the gear to beat it...

Alex savage was very bad for the community, i have never seen so many hatred just because DPS, not even coil was ever that bad.
Square Enix have to stop with the lockouts, it does not make any sense that players are not allowed to help others once cleared...
It is good that they try to stop winselling, but those restrictions are hitting the weak and not the selling players!

There's nothing stopping players from going back and helping their friends. Are we even playing the same thing?

Edit:

^this
The hardest content does not come from making tight timers or enrage the whole fight and let everyone preform "perfect" to unforgiving mechanics, its the "challenge" that attracts players and not the "impossibility"...
To overcome the challenge is fun and not to try something impossible (impossible does not mean unbeatable)... Climbing a wall is fun, not breaking through it with your head...

But have already beat it 4 months ago with a lot less gear... How exactly is this impossible?

[Colorful]

It's so cute how people keep whining about difficulty and are yet unwilling to improve... Jeessus, this game seriously has the baddest players I've ever seen. Ideology seems to be; " I want everything but I don't wanna work for it". Dem scrubs.

What do you expect? The game has been built from the ground up to be a casual MMO, not very surprising. But hey, it works unlike "hardcore" MMOs, aka Wildstar.

[UBERHAXED]

What do you expect? The game has been built from the ground up to be a casual MMO, not very surprising. But hey, it works unlike "hardcore" MMOs, aka Wildstar.

But you have your diadem and tome gear. Leave the rest to those who want to get it.

[Colorful]

But you have your diadem and tome gear. Leave the rest to those who want to get it.

Do people actually do the Diadem anymore?

But that's not my point, I don't care for Thodan since the glamours are ugly. If they looked good enough I'd put in the effort to get it cleared, but eh, they look... bland to say the least. Regardless, I want content that isn't nerfed to the ground immediately, and the only "content" like that is Fenrir. I want players to improve, but SE gives no tools for that nor do they make DPS responsible for anything, but I suppose that's a subject for the parser thread. Just saying that you shouldn't be surprised when content is nerfed, even incredibly easy content like Steps of Faith was nerfed.

[UBERHAXED]

Do people actually do the Diadem anymore?

But that's not my point, I don't care for Thodan since the glamours are ugly. If they looked good enough I'd put in the effort to get it cleared, but eh, they look... bland to say the least. Regardless, I want content that isn't nerfed to the ground immediately, and the only "content" like that is Fenrir. I want players to improve, but SE gives no tools for that nor do they make DPS responsible for anything, but I suppose that's a subject for the parser thread. Just saying that you shouldn't be surprised when content is nerfed, even incredibly easy content like Steps of Faith was nerfed.

*Complains that last two floors of the hardest content (labeled savage, which has an equivalent mode for non-raiders) is impossible due to dps requirement, despite fact that people have clear it almost half a year ago*

*Claims that dps have no responsibility*

I'm not even sure what your point is since you (in the quote) claim that the gear is not your point.