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    DragonSlayer45's Avatar
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    I have never heard of that site up until now. How valid are they?
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    Yea, that article has incorrect information, Yoshi did state fewer ppl have cleared then what was projected, and that they monitor clears 3.1 to see if adjustments should be made
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    Steps of faith got nerfed for obvious reasons (*cough*they want people to be able to unlock expansion*cough*)

    Coil nerfs came out progressively and then when caps were removed, further nerfs occurred (I mean, it was pretty old by that point anyway).

    Does Thordan need to be nerfed? I mostly have done it with party finder groups. So far, I've farmed enough tokens for the barding and several weapons as well as getting drop weapons. I haven't really even done it with my static all that much. In a month everyone will probably have relic weapons that will be better anyway. If they nerf it in a month, it won't really matter all that much. But I think most of us know that with ravana having better weapons than bismarck, that people didn't ever do bismarck all that much. Sadly this will probably happen to thordan when alex is nerfed and relics are out.

    Considering that diadem is making many of the drops in alexander seem not that hot, perhaps a alex nerf wouldn't be a bad thing. It would have been a lot more timely if it happened with some new alexander fights to do however. I have a feeling that the next patch there will be nothing much to do but grind out your relic. I know the people that still want clears are going to do be doing alex, but even they will get bored after a few clears if it's just glamour gear to them.

    Personally I don't like nerfs, not because players will be beating content they don't "deserve" to, but just cause even those people getting clears after the nerf will get super bored quickly since they won't be getting anything good out of it but maybe the achievement. It might even be that much harder to find anyone willing to go and it was already difficult to find people that were interested.
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    Last edited by Cherie; 12-06-2015 at 05:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    Personally I don't like nerfs, not because players will be beating content they don't "deserve" to, but just cause even those people getting clears after the nerf will get super bored quickly since they won't be getting anything good out of it but maybe the achievement. It might even be that much harder to find anyone willing to go and it was already difficult to find people that were interested.
    The other end of the spectrum is that the (only) content available is too excessively hard that people don't want to attempt it for various reasons (burn out being the primary one). I know this is the case for A3s on my server and at least 4 of the members we had to go through.

    When a nerf goes out, it's usually in the form of a content patch (or mid patch which adds a new tier afterwards) that comes with other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    The other end of the spectrum is that the (only) content available is too excessively hard that people don't want to attempt it for various reasons (burn out being the primary one). I know this is the case for A3s on my server and at least 4 of the members we had to go through.

    When a nerf goes out, it's usually in the form of a content patch (or mid patch which adds a new tier afterwards) that comes with other things.
    No particular disagreements here. Like we both said, it would be more timely if the nerf happened alongside some new alex content, but according to the patch deployment schedule, we aren't due a new alex for some time. So true though, a3s is quite the rude awakening compared to a1s and a2s which I see many pugs beat without too much trouble (despite it being tough to do with strangers). I have seen many statics of friends break over a3s which is new to me because I can't remember any particular turn in coil doing that to people.

    I agree, nerfs usually accompany new content patches but if we are seeing some nerfs next patch, I think the only new content is the relic quest. If there is some new raid or primal I know nothing about it.
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    If it ever does get nerfed, that's disappointing. I'd like to clear it in its initial difficulty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaslash View Post
    If it ever does get nerfed, that's disappointing. I'd like to clear it in its initial difficulty
    Serious question, why haven't you done it yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    Serious question, why haven't you done it yet?
    Based on the join date, they recently got the game. Probably had to go through all of 2.X for a while before they hit 60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Based on the join date, they recently got the game. Probably had to go through all of 2.X for a while before they hit 60.
    Maybe, but not everyone joins the forums at the same time as joining the game.
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    Player Aquaslash's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    Serious question, why haven't you done it yet?
    A combination of being late, needing to improve my skill, and I have yet to find a stable static group. The static I'm in now, which had previously been held up at the hand of pain, has all but broken up because of a string of abysmal pugs for A1/A2.
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