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    Racial stats suggestion

    One thing that has been bugging me about the game is racial stats. You see I play main Paladin and sometimes monk. Now the Xaela tribe has 6 more str and 3 more vit then Raen. Basically I am at a disadvantage because i am losing out on those 6 str which is the equivalent of having a un-upgraded piece of gear that you can't upgrade. Like I have a 200 ring that I can never get to 210.

    The reason I play Raen is because I like the way they look, I like the white scales much more then the blue/black ones. However playing this race/tribe combo puts me at a disadvantage that I can never over come. Xaela will always have a higher max dps over me on tanks and melee dps jobs.

    What I would suggest is tie the starting stats to something that doesn't effect how you look like guardian. For example Halon could give you the best str/vit combo. If starting stats were tied to guardian then you could look however you want without being at a disadvantage.
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    Racial stats don't make that much of a difference. Play the race and the classes you want to play. Do what you enjoy. I don't play Lala because they have more INT for my BLM, I play Lala because I like the race.

    If you're truly value those 6 str SO much.. then switch. One is clearly more important to you than the other.

    Frankly I don't think RPers are going to want to switch their guardians because of the stat ties either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    Racial stats don't make that much of a difference. Play the race and the classes you want to play. Do what you enjoy. I don't play Lala because they have more INT for my BLM, I play Lala because I like the race.
    They do make a lot of difference when there are very high dps checks in savage that SE seemed to put a lot of this expansion. Like my analogy would you like to go into savage having a 200 ring that you could never get to 210? I wouldn't care so much if this expansion wasn't so focused on dps checks but missing out on something like 6 str is huge when you aren't making or barely making dps checks.
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    How much difference would it really make, like 1-2% DPS at most?

    Having said that though, I didn't like racials in WoW and I don't like them here. They're pointless and limits freedom if you're one of the really hardcore people.
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    Racial stats are so small in variance as to be completely inconsequential. If it REALLY bothers you for the absolute min/max potential then switch, but if the race itself is more important to you then don't worry about it. It really, seriously isn't going to affect your gameplay that much. You talk about being "at a disadvantage", but if a Dunesfolk Lalafell tank can do just as well as a Sea Wolf Roegadyn tank in practice and ease of content (and they can), then it clearly doesn't matter all that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    They do make a lot of difference when there are very high dps checks in savage that SE seemed to put a lot of this expansion. Like my analogy would you like to go into savage having a 200 ring that you could never get to 210? I wouldn't care so much if this expansion wasn't so focused on dps checks but missing out on something like 6 str is huge when you aren't making or barely making dps checks.
    If you think that little is going to make a difference in Savage then you have other issues in your static than your groups chosen races. If you can't make a DPS check because of 6 str then you need to work on your rotation as a DPS.
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    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    If you think that little is going to make a difference in Savage then you have other issues in your static than your groups chosen races. If you can't make a DPS check because of 6 str then you need to work on your rotation as a DPS.
    It is something that is unoptimized that can be optimized at the cost of looking how you don't want to look and it just bugs me greatly. Which is why I suggested stats should be tied to something that doesn't effect looks and guardian is the perfect thing because nobody sees it and its only on your profile in your character screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuRoots View Post
    Racial stats are so small in variance as to be completely inconsequential. If it REALLY bothers you for the absolute min/max potential then switch, but if the race itself is more important to you then don't worry about it. It really, seriously isn't going to affect your gameplay that much. You talk about being "at a disadvantage", but if a Dunesfolk Lalafell tank can do just as well as a Sea Wolf Roegadyn tank in practice and ease of content (and they can), then it clearly doesn't matter all that much.
    I don't really get how you can say its inconsequential because if you ask any dps they would love to have 6 more of their primary stat for free. Even if its something that equates to like a .5 or a 1% increase in efficiency that is still a increase. I find it extremely frustrating I can never hit the dps ceiling because another race has a 6 stat advantage over me unless I switch to the optimal race.
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    I still think SE should get rid of the attribute points system and just add +35 to all stats. More HP and more damage to your non main stat and more of everything, isn't going to break anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    They do make a lot of difference when there are very high dps checks in savage that SE seemed to put a lot of this expansion. Like my analogy would you like to go into savage having a 200 ring that you could never get to 210? I wouldn't care so much if this expansion wasn't so focused on dps checks but missing out on something like 6 str is huge when you aren't making or barely making dps checks.
    You'll do far more for your DPS by optimizing your gear (and ditching your Fending jewelry) than anything.

    I see plenty of Xaela casters out there, who are at a disadvantage to their Raen counterparts. If it means that much to you, then change. Personally, I picked Raen because I like the way that it looks and the small amount of strength is pretty inconsequential.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 12-05-2015 at 06:00 AM.

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    At least the stat difference isn't as extreme as ffxi, galka whm dat mp pool was hilarious.
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