Racial stats suggestion

[Zumi]

One thing that has been bugging me about the game is racial stats. You see I play main Paladin and sometimes monk. Now the Xaela tribe has 6 more str and 3 more vit then Raen. Basically I am at a disadvantage because i am losing out on those 6 str which is the equivalent of having a un-upgraded piece of gear that you can't upgrade. Like I have a 200 ring that I can never get to 210.

The reason I play Raen is because I like the way they look, I like the white scales much more then the blue/black ones. However playing this race/tribe combo puts me at a disadvantage that I can never over come. Xaela will always have a higher max dps over me on tanks and melee dps jobs.

What I would suggest is tie the starting stats to something that doesn't effect how you look like guardian. For example Halon could give you the best str/vit combo. If starting stats were tied to guardian then you could look however you want without being at a disadvantage.

[Youkulm]

Racial stats don't make that much of a difference. Play the race and the classes you want to play. Do what you enjoy. I don't play Lala because they have more INT for my BLM, I play Lala because I like the race.

If you're truly value those 6 str SO much.. then switch. One is clearly more important to you than the other.

Frankly I don't think RPers are going to want to switch their guardians because of the stat ties either.

[Zumi]

Racial stats don't make that much of a difference. Play the race and the classes you want to play. Do what you enjoy. I don't play Lala because they have more INT for my BLM, I play Lala because I like the race.

They do make a lot of difference when there are very high dps checks in savage that SE seemed to put a lot of this expansion. Like my analogy would you like to go into savage having a 200 ring that you could never get to 210? I wouldn't care so much if this expansion wasn't so focused on dps checks but missing out on something like 6 str is huge when you aren't making or barely making dps checks.

[Youkulm]

They do make a lot of difference when there are very high dps checks in savage that SE seemed to put a lot of this expansion. Like my analogy would you like to go into savage having a 200 ring that you could never get to 210? I wouldn't care so much if this expansion wasn't so focused on dps checks but missing out on something like 6 str is huge when you aren't making or barely making dps checks.

If you think that little is going to make a difference in Savage then you have other issues in your static than your groups chosen races. If you can't make a DPS check because of 6 str then you need to work on your rotation as a DPS.

[Zumi]

If you think that little is going to make a difference in Savage then you have other issues in your static than your groups chosen races. If you can't make a DPS check because of 6 str then you need to work on your rotation as a DPS.

It is something that is unoptimized that can be optimized at the cost of looking how you don't want to look and it just bugs me greatly. Which is why I suggested stats should be tied to something that doesn't effect looks and guardian is the perfect thing because nobody sees it and its only on your profile in your character screen.

Racial stats are so small in variance as to be completely inconsequential. If it REALLY bothers you for the absolute min/max potential then switch, but if the race itself is more important to you then don't worry about it. It really, seriously isn't going to affect your gameplay that much. You talk about being "at a disadvantage", but if a Dunesfolk Lalafell tank can do just as well as a Sea Wolf Roegadyn tank in practice and ease of content (and they can), then it clearly doesn't matter all that much.

I don't really get how you can say its inconsequential because if you ask any dps they would love to have 6 more of their primary stat for free. Even if its something that equates to like a .5 or a 1% increase in efficiency that is still a increase. I find it extremely frustrating I can never hit the dps ceiling because another race has a 6 stat advantage over me unless I switch to the optimal race.

[Gamer3427]

It is something that is unoptimized that can be optimized

As every other person in this thread has pointed out, the minuscule stat differences aren't going to affect anything. Picking a race because it's "optimized" to your role is incredibly pointless due to how small the stat boosts are. Not to mention that optimizing your character for one role in this manner means that you will be "unoptimized" as you put it for every other role in the game. There is no point in complaining that the stats are different for each race, because at this point they're little more than flavor text. The only time you'll be at an advantage or disadvantage because of it is possibly in the earliest levels where your stats are still in the double digits. If it REALLY bothers you that you don't get that extra 1-2 points of damage in every thirty seconds or so, (which is still random because all attack numbers have a varying range to them to begin with), then you can always fantasia constantly whenever you want to play a different class. I'm sure whoever is directly in charge of the Mogstation would be happy with that.....

Which is why I suggested stats should be tied to something that doesn't effect looks and guardian is the perfect thing because nobody sees it and its only on your profile in your character screen.

Nah, we already have guardian to affect our near pointless elemental resistances. Besides, as far as I know you can't change your guardian period, which means that you'll be having to roll alts to "optimize" your stats for whatever class you want to play. The entire point of the way the game is set up seems to be so you DON'T have to roll alts, seeing as how we can watch any cutscene from any inn room, (baring text bubbles from non-cutscene NPC interactions), and can play as ANY class on the same character with levels being independent and stat allotment being tied to the class itself rather than your character as a whole. The ONLY way they could tie these, (again almost entirely unimportant), stat differences to the guardian would be if you could change it at a whim outside of combat, which would be either pointless or annoying.....

It seems to me though that you're not complaining that you don't have these stats, or that they could make you preform better. You're complaining that in theory someone could preform slightly better than you in the one in a trillion situation that you two would be preforming the exact same otherwise, which is frankly a bit petty that you can't live with the idea of someone doing slightly better than you. The solution to this isn't to change where these slight stat changes come from, but to remove them entirely and just give a flat boost across all the stats based on the average. Again though, this likely won't happen because as small as the stats are, they're almost entirely flavor text, and I'd rather them not even take the time to worry with that change since it really doesn't matter....

[Ashkendor]

They do make a lot of difference when there are very high dps checks in savage that SE seemed to put a lot of this expansion. Like my analogy would you like to go into savage having a 200 ring that you could never get to 210? I wouldn't care so much if this expansion wasn't so focused on dps checks but missing out on something like 6 str is huge when you aren't making or barely making dps checks.

You'll do far more for your DPS by optimizing your gear (and ditching your Fending jewelry) than anything.

I see plenty of Xaela casters out there, who are at a disadvantage to their Raen counterparts. If it means that much to you, then change. Personally, I picked Raen because I like the way that it looks and the small amount of strength is pretty inconsequential.

[Zumi]

You'll do far more for your DPS by optimizing your gear (and ditching your Fending jewelry) than anything.

I see plenty of Xaela casters out there, who are at a disadvantage to their Raen counterparts. If it means that much to you, then change. Personally, I picked Raen because I like the way that it looks and the small amount of strength is pretty inconsequential.

It's always been the case you will do better then someone who is less skilled or doesn't optimize gear, but assuming if you have 2 players who are at the same skill level have same bis gear but one is Raen and one is Xaela. Then the Xaela will be slightly better on melee dps and tanks.

I don't think I would want to pick Xaela because I just like the way Raen looks so much better.

[Ashkendor]

It's always been the case you will do better then someone who is less skilled or doesn't optimize gear, but assuming if you have 2 players who are at the same skill level have same bis gear but one is Raen and one is Xaela. Then the Xaela will be slightly better on melee dps and tanks.

The Raen will be slightly better as a caster/healer. Either way, the difference is so small that a few errant crits one way or the other could easily make up for it. Otherwise you wouldn't see so many Highlanders and Sea Wolves running around as half-naked casters. xD

True min/maxers can min/max a little, but they aren't getting all that much out of it. I prefer to have a character I like looking at.

I don't think I would want to pick Xaela because I just like the way Raen looks so much better.

Me either. I have a serious dislike for the black sclera they gave male Xaela. :|

[Saccharin]

They do make a lot of difference when there are very high dps checks in savage that SE seemed to put a lot of this expansion. Like my analogy would you like to go into savage having a 200 ring that you could never get to 210? I wouldn't care so much if this expansion wasn't so focused on dps checks but missing out on something like 6 str is huge when you aren't making or barely making dps checks.

While technically they do make a difference it's so small that other factors would come into play like you playing. Not one can play perfectly and that is more likely to have a greater effect on your performance, not 6 strength.