AST's weakness in end game

[Velox]

Can't agree with this at all. With the addition of Assize, MP is so much easier to manage on WHMs now. The only real way to get OOM is if you're not using Shroud/Assize when it's available or if you're overhealing like crazy. I thought MP management was a huge factor in learning WHM back in 2.x, and that's now relatable to AST only. Ewer is a very weak MP regen, and usually not even worth using unless you're in a very dire situation.

You're also forgetting that, AST MP costs are lower for spells of the same potency as WHM. That means you spend less MP during a boss fight as a AST than a WHM, meaning their MP management is very much on-par with each other

[technole]

You're also forgetting that, AST MP costs are lower for spells of the same potency as WHM. That means you spend less MP during a boss fight as a AST than a WHM, meaning their MP management is very much on-par with each other

Not to mention AST should be taking advantage of their toolkit to dramatically cut MP costs of skills during key moments of a raid. Lightspeed and Synastry help tremendously.

[Kabzy]

You're also forgetting that, AST MP costs are lower for spells of the same potency as WHM. That means you spend less MP during a boss fight as a AST than a WHM, meaning their MP management is very much on-par with each other

You could also argue that WHM get procs to reduce their overall MP costs. Freecure being a very useful and fairly frequent one. And the Ewer might be decent, but I don't know many ASTs who would actually use that if it wasn't absolutely crucial, it's usually for shuffling.

[TatoRazzino]

You could also argue that WHM get procs to reduce their overall MP costs. Freecure being a very useful and fairly frequent one. And the Ewer might be decent, but I don't know many ASTs who would actually use that if it wasn't absolutely crucial, it's usually for shuffling.

Not true. In A2S, Ewers and Spires are very valuable and not shuffled at all. Arrows are not always wanted because they burn resources too fast. Each fight has its own card strategy.