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    Quote Originally Posted by December View Post
    "Hey, we think now the game is good enough to charge you for it". But they don't! They basically say that we are funding their development process.
    Which is exactly what happens with every MMORPG out there. The main purpose of monthly fees in every MMORPG is to fund further development and generate profits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaida View Post
    Do we need another one of these?
    As irritating as it is to see new threads like these, I think we kind of do. Some people will support any decision SE makes. I think this should at least inform SE in a way that is like "HEY, you need to improve some foundational elements of your game before you start charging."

    Because really, they should. Things like party search, gear search, market ward improvements. This stuff is CRITICAL to the game, not secondary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by December View Post
    It would've been more convincing if SE came out and said..

    "Hey, we think now the game is good enough to charge you for it". But they don't! They basically say that we are funding their development process.

    how many MMORPG's have released new content after the enitial lauch? and where do you think they get the money to develop new content. we have all be playing for months sucking money out of a comany while they got the game to a stage that they feel is worthy of us paying. this is the time pay or not. but if your not paying why are you here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Which is exactly what happens with every MMORPG out there. The main purpose of monthly fees in every MMORPG is to fund further development and generate profits.
    No, I'm sorry, I don't think every MMORPG starts out with the Publisher and developer stating that they are aware the game is garbage and give a free year of play-testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by December View Post
    No, I'm sorry, I don't think every MMORPG starts out with the Publisher and developer stating that they are aware the game is garbage and give a free year of play-testing.
    In fact they gave you that free year. Now the game is solid and enjoyable. The free play testing comes to an end, as they are providing a product, and people normally pay for products. It's that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by December View Post
    No, I'm sorry, I don't think every MMORPG starts out with the Publisher and developer stating that they are aware the game is garbage and give a free year of play-testing.
    I find it funny that you care so much about steering people away from a game that you have not played for more than an hour or two. That's how long it took me to reach rank 13...
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    HI GUYS I'M JUST HERE TO TELL YOU THAT I AM QUITTING THE GAME.

    W-WHAT? YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT ME? WELL WHY NOT?

    I understand why a bunch of people are going to quit, and why they're uneasy about this. Really, I do. I'm rather wary about spending money on an unfinished product myself. But come the fuck on, you don't need to make this thread every 20 minutes.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    I find it funny that you care so much about steering people away from a game that you have not played for more than an hour or two. That's how long it took me to reach rank 13...
    I think I know the definition for that kind of attitude... what was that called again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    In fact they gave you that free year. Now the game is solid and enjoyable. The free play testing comes to an end, as they are providing a product, and people normally pay for products. It's that simple.
    I respectfully disagree that the game is "solid". It's obviously not solid, or else we wouldn't be getting this year-long content overall plan presented to us to keep us playing. I'm pretty sure Yoshi admitting that the game is 50% complete is proof enough that he agree it isn't solid as well. I'm also aware that Yoshi has nothing to do with the sub's being enforced upon the players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    I find it funny that you care so much about steering people away from a game that you have not played for more than an hour or two. That's how long it took me to reach rank 13...
    I've played this game a lot more than you're assuming. I've deleted characters, made new ones, shown my friends over and over how cool the creation process is. I don't care about the characters that I have right now because when 2.0 rolls around I will be re rolling again anyway. I have been much higher rank than 13 and have logged plently of hours into FFXIV over the past year.. (leveling is not all you do in this game either).

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    I dont want to quit. I am not trying to steer people away from the game. I wish the game was full enough to really enjoy the community and party play. I am a real fan of the game I really am. I really want it to succeed. I really want more games like FFXI, EverQuest, and now FFXIV to be competitive on the market.
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