Not the time to charge, cya in 2013...

[Xenor]

And yes, they do owe me. THEY OWE ME A $50 GAME. A game that is WORTH $50. Or have you forgotten that you BOUGHT a BETA? And now you feel it's right to charge for it?

You will be getting a $50 game for free when they put version 2 online for free download for people who bought the original. If you don't want to pay now then don't. I'm sure SE doesn't care. You will come back when they offer you that shiny new v2 for free with a new trial.

[December]

You will be getting a $50 game for free when they put version 2 online for free download for people who bought the original. If you don't want to pay now then don't. I'm sure SE doesn't care. You will come back when they offer you that shiny new v2 for free with a new trial.

Are you kidding me? I will be gettign a game for free? I already paid for it! And now they want me to pay monthly to receive a "free" game in 2012/2013?

Wow..

EDIT: I'm sure SE does care actually or else they wouldn't be instating the monthly fee

[Mardel]

Are you kidding me? I will be gettign a game for free? I already paid for it! And now they want me to pay monthly to receive a "free" game in 2012/2013?

Wow..

EDIT: I'm sure SE does care actually or else they wouldn't be instating the monthly fee

Well even if they do, we don't. BYE!

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

And yes, they do owe me. THEY OWE ME A $50 GAME. A game that is WORTH $50. Or have you forgotten that you BOUGHT a BETA? And now you feel it's right to charge for it?

EDIT: Don't act so high and mighty, by the way. just because you pay for something that I don't. it isn't a charity. They are a business, and they made a bad game. A game they admitted time and time again is not even close to complete. It's LOGICAL to assume that most people won't want to pay for a game that's not even fucking finished.

You are not entitled to more than what they've given you. Which was a asinine amount of free months to play the game. You've been given way more than you put into the game financially. You were not entitled to any more free play months ago, but since the game was in such bad shape there was no choice, but to keep the free trial.

SE is now saying, "Are you a giver? Or are you a taker?" The players who have faith in their direction, have an ounce of empathy, or are not ungrateful a-holes will most likely pay to play soon. Not to mention that with the look of 2.0, this seems to be a pretty expensive task and the number of people we find working on this game plus the amount of work that is now being shown for the first time previously behind closed doors, you'd have to be an idiot to not understand why they need to start charging.

You think with all of that effort being put into the game that they would be okay with bringing in no revenue? Grow a brain.

[December]

You are not entitled to more than what they've given you. Which was a asinine amount of free months to play the game. You've been given way more than you put into the game financially. You were not entitled to any more free play months ago, but since the game was in such bad shape there was no choice, but to keep the free trial.

SE is now saying, "Are you a giver? Or are you a taker?" The players who have faith in their direction, have an ounce of empathy, or are not ungrateful a-holes will most likely pay to play soon. Not to mention that with the look of 2.0, this seems to be a pretty expensive task and the number of people we find working on this game plus the amount of work that is now being shown for the first time previously behind closed doors, you'd have to be an idiot to not understand why they need to start charging.

You think with all of that effort being put into the game that they would be okay with bringing in no revenue? Grow a brain.

You have to realize that I don't want hand outs. I want a good game. I've wanted a good game since one year ago. They have not delivered on that, and they have admitted it was not a good game. In the end, you disagree with me on the fact that I think SE deserves to pay for their mistakes. You seem to think -we- need to pay for their mistakes.

[Abriael]

You have to realize that I don't want hand outs. I want a good game. I've wanted a good game since one year ago. They have not delivered on that, and they have admitted it was not a good game. In the end, you disagree with me on the fact that I think SE deserves to pay for their mistakes. You seem to think -we- need to pay for their mistakes.

No, we're going to be paying for a product. A product that they are providing.

Whether you think it's a good product or not is irrelevant.

[Molly_Millions]

No, we're going to be paying for a product. A product that they are providing.

Whether you think it's a good product or not is irrelevant.

...a product that I am having more fun playing than any other game I've played in the last several years. That's my honest opinion.

[Gao]

You seem to think -we- need to pay for their mistakes.

Well no one is forcing you to pay for it... i mean if you dont want to pay why don't you just not play the game? I really don't think telling people about for example - "I hope you guy's read this and that I make you change your minds to not pay to play this incomplete game" Should effect people's decision. Doesn't people have the right to choose to pay or not without anyone else telling others what they should do?

[XxOstiaxX]

Well no one is forcing you to pay for it... i mean if you dont want to pay why don't you just not play the game? I really don't think telling people about for example - "I hope you guy's read this and that I make you change your minds to not pay to play this incomplete game" Should effect people's decision. Doesn't people have the right to choose to pay or not without anyone else telling others what they should do?

Have you sat down and think about the precedent that this sets ? If they are successful(Wish imo they wont be) with this, it will set a new standard of "Here are a few concept arts of what will be our game, now here is the beta, pay a monthly fee and we will hope to give you the game in the pictures by this # time frame"

[AmyRae]

SE is now saying, "Are you a giver? Or are you a taker?" The players who have faith in their direction, have an ounce of empathy, or are not ungrateful a-holes will most likely pay to play soon. Not to mention that with the look of 2.0, this seems to be a pretty expensive task and the number of people we find working on this game plus the amount of work that is now being shown for the first time previously behind closed doors, you'd have to be an idiot to not understand why they need to start charging.

I don't think if you don't want to pay a subscription that you're an "ungrateful a-hole." For some people, they don't think it's a good value for their money, and that's perfectly acceptable.

Now griping that the game should be kept free because they feel entitled to even more free months is probably going too far.