Not the time to charge, cya in 2013...

[Chain]

TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Not trolling, it's obvious he's a MAD bro. He's almost the only one in this thread throwing around personal insults, threats and cussing up half of his posts.

He's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo mad.

[December]

Wow I have not been spouting hate. Things like "Get out you waste of space" is spewing hate. What I have "spewing" is my opinion about FFXIV and how they should not be charging us quite yet, and then my reasoning. You are a fucking moron, there, now I'm spewing hate.

And no, the game will not do just fine without players like me. Keep pushing players who have an open mind away from the game, and the game may shut down due to lack of player base.

[Wynn]

Wow I have not been spouting hate. Things like "Get out you waste of space" is spewing hate. What I have "spewing" is my opinion about FFXIV and how they should not be charging us quite yet, and then my reasoning. You are a fucking moron, there, now I'm spewing hate.

And no, the game will not do just fine without players like me. Keep pushing players who have an open mind away from the game, and the game may shut down due to lack of player base.

Yes because losing players who refuse to pay totally hurts SE's bottom line. You have already admitted you are here to convince people not to play this game because you think it deserves to fail. You are a troll, just not a very good one.

[December]

Lol wow, I'm not a troll and I'm not posting the definition of troll AGAIN. I do believe SE deserves to fail based on the game they released. I dont think they just deserve to fail just for the fuck of it. Also, Im not here to convince people not to play the game, I'm here to convince people not to pay for this game's subscription yet.

[Prevbean]

December I wouldn't even bother trying to talk sense in the loyalist around here it will fall on deaf ears. Noone outside of rabid fanboys think it's a good idea to charge for this sooo long before 2.0 regardless of what an lol800 person forum poll which is biased due to where it is posted.
You guys can think yayyyy the majority here say they will be staying and paying but it shows like 500 something people. If having the place more of a ghost town than this game already is for another year is your thing which sadly some of your attitudes show it is, more power to you.
The upcoming changes next year look like they can be the answer we are all looking for but anything but the blindest fanbois would justify paying a full price monthly fee for this trash even the devs say is trash. December and any sane person is better to stay away anyways because you don't want to be playing the game with these freaks and people who don't speak english and kick you out of groups because you're not japanese.

[Burn]

I don't think anyone would have a problem paying monthly for this if the quality was there. Based on the time-line it doesn't even look like a bulk of the server issues will be fixed until they transfer the data onto the new client/server which means that alone isn't worth a monthly fee in my opinion.

Some people like the game in its current state, I can't fault people, maybe they met some cool people who enjoy the game but my personal opinion is not worth the sub yet. If you told me 2.0 was 2-3 months out obviously I would be more inclined to stick around and shell out some cash. My personal opinion is I rather wait especially with all these cool games like Diablo 3 coming early 2012, I rather spend the money else-where for the time being until the game is worth it(to me).

[Invalice_Vangaurd]

Will people stop saying this game is in beta, alpha, blah, blah, fucking blah. If this game was in beta, then we would be playing for the sole purpose of testing and would not get to keep the progress we make, yet we get to keep all the progress we make, so it is a poor comparison.

At best you could say we are getting charged to play a bad game, but that's almost completely subjective, and many of us would beg to differ, because we are currently enjoying the game, which is the most important metric to consider.

Regardless, this is a product, that SE has put a ridiculous amount of time and money into, and they have every right to charge monthly for it while they are continuing its upkeep and expansion-- just like every other MMO company. If you are offended by that, then it is on you and your own perception of the situation.

I haven't been on the forums for several days because I'm currently building a custom water cooled system, so my computer has been out of commission. After reading about the changes myself earlier today, I expected to see a bunch of threads with people excited about the new design direction (which seems amazing to me), but instead I see a bunch of people bitching about every little aspect, as usual. Sometimes I'm not sure why I even log on here.

I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for a dev to read over these forums, because no matter what they do, or how hard they work on this game, it seems people still bitch about every little aspect as if its the end of the world-- with little to no appreciation or thoughtful criticism. It's probably a vocal minority type of situation, but nonetheless, I'm sure it gets rather annoying.

For clarification: I'm all for constructive criticism with some sound reason behind it, but it seems more and more the complaints around here fall into the irrational whining category instead.

[Chain]

I now declare this thread the official MAD BRO thread.

[Isaaru]

I now declare this thread the official MAD BRO thread.

lolumadbro?