Not the time to charge, cya in 2013...

[Xbob42]

All the idiots saying "Like it or leave!" are probably the same people who thought this game was the second coming in the beta. Not expressing your opinion is idiotic. Feedback is so incredibly important to an MMO, including feedback as to why people are leaving, or why an idea is extremely unpopular.

Walking away without leaving a reason for Square Enix provides no feedback. Maybe you left because your cat died and now you're depressed? Maybe you left because male Mi'qote offend you? How the hell would they know? They could assume everyone left for this reason or that... but the only way to know for sure, to get proper feedback... Is by us speaking up.

So telling us to "shut up," is like saying "Square doesn't need feedback! I mean, look how well they did without it for the release of this game!"

Idiotic nonsense.

You aren't moderators, you didn't buy us our copies of the game, so you have no right whatsoever to tell us to shut up. Take that shit and stuff it back where you spewed it from. If Square needs you lot of raving lunatics to defend their game, then it's all already over.

[Wynn]

All the idiots saying "Like it or leave!" are probably the same people who thought this game was the second coming in the beta. Not expressing your opinion is idiotic. Feedback is so incredibly important to an MMO, including feedback as to why people are leaving, or why an idea is extremely unpopular.

Walking away without leaving a reason for Square Enix provides no feedback. Maybe you left because your cat died and now you're depressed? Maybe you left because male Mi'qote offend you? How the hell would they know? They could assume everyone left for this reason or that... but the only way to know for sure, to get proper feedback... Is by us speaking up.

So telling us to "shut up," is like saying "Square doesn't need feedback! I mean, look how well they did without it for the release of this game!"

Idiotic nonsense.

Actually, you'd be wrong.

P.S. Bitching about a sub fee is not providing feedback about the game. It's just bitching about paying.

[December]

Actually, you'd be wrong.

P.S. Bitching about a sub fee is not providing feedback about the game. It's just bitching about paying.

No actually you're wrong because I can tell you haven't read any of my replies, or at least the ones where I explain what I'm actually complaining about.

I'm complaining about how SE is going to split this community in half and make a lot of us lose faith in this company. This company can not afford to lose anymore customers. They need us to stay happy and stick around their world. They may just piss a lot of us off enough to not come back in 2.0.

Se are makign themsevles look really bad by charging for a beta version of their game. Even Yoshi said in his recent translated interview that 2.0 is a relaunch, like a lot of you said 2.0 is not.

[TheVedis]

No actually you're wrong because I can tell you haven't read any of my replies, or at least the ones where I explain what I'm actually complaining about.

I'm complaining about how SE is going to split this community in half and make a lot of us lose faith in this company. This company can not afford to lose anymore customers. They need us to stay happy and stick around their world. They may just piss a lot of us off enough to not come back in 2.0.

Se are makign themsevles look really bad by charging for a beta version of their game. Even Yoshi said in his recent translated interview that 2.0 is a relaunch, like a lot of you said 2.0 is not.

they dont need to make you happy
you arent playing the game

[December]

they dont need to make you happy
you arent playing the game

You really aren't a "big picture' kind of guy, are you? So SE only needs to make loyal fanboys happy? That sounds real profitable.

[Wynn]

No actually you're wrong because I can tell you haven't read any of my replies, or at least the ones where I explain what I'm actually complaining about.

I'm complaining about how SE is going to split this community in half and make a lot of us lose faith in this company. This company can not afford to lose anymore customers. They need us to stay happy and stick around their world. They may just piss a lot of us off enough to not come back in 2.0.

Se are makign themsevles look really bad by charging for a beta version of their game. Even Yoshi said in his recent translated interview that 2.0 is a relaunch, like a lot of you said 2.0 is not.

Are you for real? The name of your thread is "Not the time to charge, see ya in 2013" Kilta is that you?

Yeah its not about complaining about paying at all. Nope not one bit:

I don't think they have any right to charge us to play a beta. It's been a year and still no search function, no useable LFG system, and no mail. The game is a wasteland outside of chatting linkshells. Now that tons of people are going to quit, the game is going to become even more desolate. Why am I going to -pay- to play a game that's not even really ready?

I always thought to myself that they would only change when this theoretical 2.0 was released (and on PS3 too)... but to charge us for it one year ahead of time? I understand there are bills to pay, but SE really made a horrible game and deserve to pay the price. I still feel insulted that they even released the game in the first place.

I only log in to play around, check to see what's changed, and log out, and I'm sure at least 50% of the players are exactly like me (if not more).

Don't get me wrong, I had a huge smile on my face as I read through the announcement and saw the PDFs about 2.0... but I'm not paying for 1.9, or 1.20.

Unfortunately, they are probably making the wrong decision on behalf of the players. I already feel insulted -again-. For the entire 2012 I'm going to be pissed at them for not allowing the people who payed 50+ dollars for this garbage continue to see the updates that THEY OWE US first hand. Now I'm going to have to be a forum dweller.

TLDR: I feel insulted all over again and refuse to pay for beta, a bad beta at that.

[December]

Are you for real? The name of your thread is "Not the time to charge, see ya in 2013" Kilta is that you?

Yeah its not about complaining about paying at all. Nope not one bit:

You're missing the point. It is about paying money, but it's the principal about making us pay before the relaunch. Why can you idiots not fuckign fathom this point? Im not cheap, I can easily afford the sub, I just won't pay for it because it's stupid to charge people when the same people know the game is going to be relaunched!

[Alerith]

I'm complaining about how SE is going to split this community in half and make a lot of us lose faith in this company.

They are splitting it in two. Not in half. "Half" indicates 50/50. Split in two is more accurate because one side will be a majority over the other. And honestly, no side can claim which of the two is going to be greater until we actually get to that point.

This company can not afford to lose anymore customers. They need us to stay happy and stick around their world. They may just piss a lot of us off enough to not come back in 2.0.

They aren't making anything on the game with a bunch of free players. And with proper marketing and a solid E3 campaign, they can make up for the few people they "pissed off" enough to not come back.

beta version

You're an idiot.

[December]

They are splitting it in two. Not in half. "Half" indicates 50/50. Split in two is more accurate because one side will be a majority over the other. And honestly, no side can claim which of the two is going to be greater until we actually get to that point.



They aren't making anything on the game with a bunch of free players. And with proper marketing and a solid E3 campaign, they can make up for the few people they "pissed off" enough to not come back.



You're an idiot.

They won't make up for it. Everyone in the MMO market will know how retarded SE is for:
1) Releasing a game years before it was ready, and then:
2) Charging people after they gave a free year before the game is really ready.

Just because they aren't calling it a beta, doesn't change the fact that it is.

[Jericho]

K, bye....