Not the time to charge, cya in 2013...

[UnrealTai]

This is almost a perfect example of number 2, only you're being honest about it. You like the game. You just don't want to have to pay for it.

I give you a like for honesty.

It's not so much that, my perception on almost everything even relationships I tend to view things as a whole, not just my personal opinion. I've been looking on the forums and listening / watching etc.
I personally have no problems paying for the game, but judging the amount of feedback, and not only feedback, but the idea word of mouth advertising is imperative for this games life, charging now is just a really bad idea. I mean 15$ is nothing, i work full time for xbox (dont laugh lol). I could see summer, or even as early as april to start charging once big overhauls are "Teased" to free players first, then making us pay to play because were craving more being a smarter choice but they didn't go that route. I will back this game to the end despite my waiting for a year to finally enjoy it (cause of xp parties) and dont mind the money to get on, its just I want to see SE make a good decision for a change ON THEIR OWN without their customers input. It has been......awhile

And I would think the general public wants to see them make the same decisions without us having to tell them as well. Once the game gets rolling they will stop listening to us, again, which would be fine, "IF" they could prove to customers they could make good choices on development or in this case billing, without us throwing a temper tantrum about it, you know?

2 examples, when they announced lvl 99 on ffxi they stated for a long time it would only be 1 year. 18 months later it is still at only 95.
I guess another could be the RNG gimp, was "something" needed to be done? sure, was gimping a job people spent millions of gil and enourmous amounts of time on a smart decision? Def not. A smarter decision would have been to start enhancing other classes and slowly bring them up to par with RNG, not destroy something people worked so hard on in the first place , especially without warning.

[Wynn]

And I would think the general public wants to see them make the same decisions without us having to tell them as well. Once the game gets rolling they will stop listening to us, again, which would be fine, "IF" they could prove to customers they could make good choices on development or in this case billing, without us throwing a temper tantrum about it, you know?

I hope you're wrong about the bolded part because SE has definitely shown they NEED to listen to their customers. I hope it is a lesson they have learned in this experience, and learned well.

[UnrealTai]

I hope so too, this major grip over paying too early will have to be a big test to see if them now charging us was also them saying ok time for us to listen to ourselves, basing it off how many players said they wont pay this early (I think the poll was about 50% won't pay last I saw it, pretty huge haha)

[December]

This thread was such a horrible idea.

I agree with your opinion completely and that is why unfortunately when they begin billing I will be quitting the game, but that doesn't mean you should make a thread about it, ESPECIALLY not here. Most if not all the people here enjoy the game and are glad to supply the funds for the game to continue development even if it is way too early. If you actually wanted people to agree with you and not be shouting to a crowd that will not listen to a word you say, you should have gone somewhere else.

Also the fact that Yoshi-P stated that if you aren't pleased with 1.20 when it comes out, you still have time to cancel before billing is a big deal too. Yoshi-P and pretty much all of Square-Enix knows that they "owe" you for releasing this beta test of a game, each time they make an update there are a ton of apologies, because what else are they supposed to do, give you a refund? So instead they are pushing to improve the game and they even have come to the point where they literally have to make the game again from the ground up, and they've already lost a years worth of revenue from release, and a lot of bad rep. So the fact that Yoshi-P and Square Enix gave you a fair warning before billing and then said "Alright, if you aren't pleased, we're sorry, quit now" is a big deal and awesome on their part.

The people that aren't pleased with a half completed game will most likely quit, if people are having fun, then they won't quit and will begin to pay.

It's as simple as that, I'm sure you could have figured it out yourself without making this shitstorm of a thread.

I came here to talk about it because these are my people. They are the people who I will be sharing a world with. This is my community. I really hope that this community becomes a big part of my online gaming life for many years. If I wanted to just shout into the ears of people who don't even play this game, I would've went to MMORPG.com or something. But that's not what I wanted.

[TMjolnir]

BLAH...BLAH....BLAH....BLAH...BLAH....Shut it already!!!

[Kailea_Nagisa]

this is getting old, and really sad......

[Molly_Millions]

poop


...I just pooped in this thread.

[Fanzeron]

And there are already 38 pages of it???

[Alerith]

All this stuff about the game currently not being up to launch standards....

Opinions. All opinions. Just like my opinion that it IS up to a launch standard, and thus a subscription standard.

Everyone is very much entitled to their opinions. But neither side should state them as if they were fact.

[Corrderio]

You're right about it not being a fact, but there are more people against Wada's decision than those that are in favor of it.

It might not be that obvious on this forum (Since let's face it, this place is about as biased as you can get regarding XIV) but I know a few XIV sites where a majority of the people aren't too pleased.