Loot Table in in the new Expert is horrible

[RiceisNice]

The dungeons released in Patch 3.0 had a higher amount of equipment drops so that players can upgrade their item level on their path to, and at, level 60. However, for dungeons introduced in Patch 3.1, we took into account that many of the players will most likely own higher item level equipment than those that can be obtained from the dungeon, therefore we have set the amount to one.

Still as of now, I never really understood why new, current dungeons still reward lower ilvl gear than what is previously obtainable by reasonable means (eso pieces, especially considering the 3-5 month gap inbetween content patches), let alone undertuning that these dungeons are actually ovegeared on release.

[Youkulm]

Well first off i dont need Esoterics Tomes anymore just collecting them anyways..
i just run Experts for the BRD Loot for Glamour.. But even after 30+ runs i never saw the suit droping from the last chest.. looked it up and last chest has a total of 16 items the can drop... and you just get ONE.
And besides Esoteric you get like nothing in there... -.-

I have to agree 100% why did the loot drops change so drastically from fractal/neverreap to PS/SM? There is less gear drops in every chest, plus you only get ONE chance for each type of gear to drop from every chest out of all the classes. I run expert everyday sometimes twice ( with other friends ) and I have yet to see most of the pieces of gear drop for EITHER of my main classes ( BLM / SCH ).

Yes the gear will be an upgrade for some people but for most? It is DOA and just glamour. I really don't want to have to keep running these dungeons once we get new ones just so I can have a chance as seeing, let alone obtaining ( while rolling against others, with the exception of my desired healer gear ). It's dropping like it's some coveted treasure and it's just not. The stats are garbage for people already working on their Eso upgrades and getting Diadem drops lol.

If it was raid gear, I get it... but this is casual roulette content...

The dungeons released in Patch 3.0 had a higher amount of equipment drops so that players can upgrade their item level on their path to, and at, level 60. However, for dungeons introduced in Patch 3.1, we took into account that many of the players will most likely own higher item level equipment than those that can be obtained from the dungeon, therefore we have set the amount to one.

If this is a catch up patch the gear should be dropping a lot easier for people that indeed need to catch up. Not wait 3 months to catch up... that's if you even get your loots by then, because we all know RNGesus is cruel at times. Then you take into account the amount of classes to have unique gear + the types of gear dropping from each chest? This is incredibly poor design.

The loot tables are absolutely obsured if you look them up on lodestone compared to other dungeons from all previous patches. They have it looted like they expect this content to last 5-6 months again. ( Meaning you'll have to run it that long to get your desired glamour. )

Outlook, not good.

[Felis]

If I want Clear Prisms, I'll just go to the vendor and buy them. They're only 200g. I don't need Heavensward dungeons to throw them at me. I'd much, much prefer to have more chances at getting gear for me and my other party members.

And yeah, the new experts really don't like to give much gear.

They should replace the prisms with Dark Matter 6

[Youkulm]

They should replace the prisms with Dark Matter 6

I LOVE this idea

[MilesSaintboroguh]

They should replace the prisms with Dark Matter 6

It'd remove one of the few gil/seal sinks, which the devs won't really be on board with.

[Iagainsti]

They should replace the prisms with Dark Matter 6

I'm soo glad to know I'm not the only one who still repairs his own gear(to 150%btw to the naysayers)

+1 on this idea

[UnstablePersonality]

But why change it from something players prefer to a grind players dislike?

I use the new dungeons to collect gear for sub classes...having one drop per makes it take forever.

[Ultimatecalibur]

The current probability is a 1 in 14 chance per run of getting the left side piece you want. Neverreap and Fractal Continuum had something like a 50% chance that one of the non-boss chests would give you another 1 in 14 chance of getting the left side piece you wanted which made the chance per run a bit over 10% per run.

In ARR, after the crafting mats were put on a different table, the probability was 1 in 9 (~11.1%) or 1 in 10 chance of getting the left side piece if you were running one of the 2 dungeons that the piece dropped from.

Still as of now, I never really understood why new, current dungeons still reward lower ilvl gear than what is previously obtainable by reasonable means (eso pieces, especially considering the 3-5 month gap inbetween content patches), let alone undertuning that these dungeons are actually ovegeared on release.

Not everyone caps Eso every week and you can only really gear up one class/role per patch with capped tomestones. PS(HM) and SMA are tuned for people in i170 to i180 gear which casual players and those running alt jobs are likely to be in. As things are there is a portion of the player base that actually gets non-glamour use out of the gear dropped.

The situation with the two new dungeons' equipment is far better than how it was in ARR. In ARR uncapped tomestone gear was always 10 to 20 ilevels higher than dungeon rewards. This time the new dungeon gear is 5 to 15 ilevels higher than Law (the uncapped tomestone) gear. I've actually seen people upgrade with dungeon drops in 3.1. This is far better than the "only junk save for the new glamour situation" we had in 2.X.

[RyuRoots]

The dungeons released in Patch 3.0 had a higher amount of equipment drops so that players can upgrade their item level on their path to, and at, level 60. However, for dungeons introduced in Patch 3.1, we took into account that many of the players will most likely own higher item level equipment than those that can be obtained from the dungeon, therefore we have set the amount to one.

What? Would you care to walk me through the logic of this? You knew that this would be mostly glamour gear for a lot of players since they'd likely have better gear. Therefore make it harder to get than in the 3.0 dungeons? Can you see how that might not make a lot of sense?

[Youkulm]

The least they could have done was make it so, for example, from the first boss 1 belt, 1 shoe drops. Instead it's always 1 belt OR 1 shoe.. Why not one of each? Even then you're unlikely to see what you're looking for, for a long time. ( unless of course you're incredibly lucky. )

Well let's be clear from my standpoint it's always the belt... lol

I also would love to see an explanation on how these tables make any sense at all for a catchup patch with nothing but casual content.