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  1. #11
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    enthauptet's Avatar
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    Judy Hopps
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Well at least you get double the chance compared to crystal tower. Still waiting for that bard chest piece lol.
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  2. #12
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    DragonSlayer45's Avatar
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    Adrian Ryder
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    In my experience, it's usually two different drops per chest.
    Well today, I had two Void Ark Boots of Healing drop from the 3rd boss so there's that too.
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  3. #13
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    Dante_V's Avatar
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    Dante Venarra
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Anecdotal evidence is still anecdotal. Random is random. What you've experienced doesn't make it any more more less random.
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  4. #14
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    Glenfiddich's Avatar
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    Kitty Softclaws
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45 View Post
    Well today, I had two Void Ark Boots of Healing drop from the 3rd boss so there's that too.
    And I had 2 Healing Body Armors from the second Boss and 1 Healing Body Armor from 3rd Boss. Next run 2 Tank gloves from the 1st Boss, at that point i have quit Void Ark. Yeah, random is random. You can keep it.
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  5. #15
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    RubyScarlett's Avatar
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    Ava Rose
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Thats why in void ark the exact same gear drops twice or more in same run and even in same chest?!
    You must not be a genius to notice something is odd with ffxiv RNG
    Oh, okay. LOL


    Let's math this out. (And feel free to correct my math, others out there who are better at this than I am.) In Void Ark, there are a possible 21 items to drop on each boss, according to the loot tables and two chests per boss.

    Probability = (# of desirable outcomes)/(# of possible outcomes)
    So the probability of a drop is 2/21 (two desirable outcomes out of a possible 21 drops). That means that you have a 4.76% chance to see a specific item of loot drop in a chest.

    Odds = (# of desirable outcomes)/(# of undesirable outcomes) So if you are looking for a specific piece of loot, then you have 1 desirable outcome out of a possible 20 outcomes per chest. Odds are seeing the 1 piece you want become 5%

    However, the odds of prior drops do not influence the odds of future drops, as someone else linked to know as Gambler's Fallacy. The more you run VA and see other drops happening, doesn't mean that the 1 desirable drop you want is more likely to happen. For example, if you flip a coin you have a 50-50 chance of getting heads and a 50-50 chance of getting tails. If you get 10 heads in a row, that still means that on your next flip the odds are still 50-50. If you see the same loot in a row, or even dropping at the same time, then that doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with RNG. It just means that you're unlucky so far.
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  6. #16
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    Cnidarian's Avatar
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    Cnidaria Vaeriat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Thats why in void ark the exact same gear drops twice or more in same run and even in same chest?!
    You must not be a genius to notice something is odd with ffxiv RNG
    That's why in real life when I roll two 20 sided die at the same time, I sometimes get the same number on each?!
    You must not be a genius to notice something is normal with random being random.
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  7. #17
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    Dani Wah
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 70
    You seemed to have to opposite luck to me. Last week I ran a total of 21 Void Arks. 1 caster chest dropped in all the runs. Didn't manage to win last week so went without loot. Went in today for my upgrade mat and got the chest I was after.

    As for the monk trousers, several runs had two dropping, sometimes from the same chest (and usually when there was no monk in the group).

    Bad RNG is bad RNG. Not really much else to it.
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  8. #18
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    Kitty Softclaws
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    You must not be a genius to notice something is odd with ffxiv RNG
    Quote from a Developer

    "We found that this had a lot of problems where players would run into streaks, and they only remembered the shitty streaks. So what we decided to do was we took a page out of ..., which had a very elegant design which they referred to as 'progressive percentages.' ...In ..., every creature that is part of the collection quest has the item 100% of the time, but we do a progressive system where we up the chance the player [gets the item] each time he kills it. The problem was, when we put it live in the beta--and we didn't tell anybody this--we found that while it was great that it got rid of the bad streaks, it also got rid of all the good streaks. And overall we needed to raise the base drop percentage to around 45%"

    That tells me very clearly that someone has failed by creating the drop percentage in FFXIV
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  9. #19
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    Asahina Karayami
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    Siren
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Last week: I wasted 8hours in total to get my only 1 wished item! >-> DPS-Mage chest piece...
    Never saw it!
    But in my 3 runs today: 3x that belt, 2x arm, 2x pants, each 1x head/boots! Nice trolling rng I say >_>;


    Not gonna do Ark again for gears that never drops! I avoid Ark!

    Give us a token system!
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  10. #20
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    Raine Serafine
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    Chocobo
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    Archer Lv 70
    Scoundrels! The RNG IS RIGGED! I ran VA once last week with my BRD hoping to pick up any MNK gear for my sub! Last boss dropped MNK chests and pants! Can you believe the RNG!?



    <3
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