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  1. #31
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    IrisBlanchimont's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astral145 View Post
    What does "Openly Gay" have to do with anything about the lore of the game?
    Quote Originally Posted by Astral145 View Post
    LOL what does "openly gay" have to do with FFXIV lore?

    Because the question of societal norms around homosexuality in Eorzea is actually quite important. I remember a vibrant debate about if Eorzea would, in lore, support equal marriage when the Eternal Bonding system was announced. There were a lot of people who argued that same-sex marriage would be against the religion of the Twelve, others who pointed to the existence of 1.0 characters, et cetera. The way the game treats gay characters is an important part of figuring out the values of the society.

    That's what ti has to do with the lore.
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  2. #32
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    The in-game text sorta seems to support interracial couples having a hard time with the societies around them (the couples or their children) but not an issue with the couples themselves being worried about it.

    For the life of me, I can't remember the respective collections, Fernehalwes has said at the Fanfest Lore panel and somewhere in the forums that it's largely racial culture issues that make interracial/crossbreeding a rarity. He made a point of it saying adventurers are far more accepting, the races have been constantly at war for the most part with each other.
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  3. #33
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    Prime example of interracial pairings being bad is ishgard; he'll, a pretty major plot point involves that.

    I do think, overall, how accepting it is of interracial or gay couples depends on the region/town/people. Some places have different traditions that are more "traditional" and others are more "progressive".
    For miqote, due to them being so rare, gay males would be considered bad, just from a survival point of view. Females pairing with other females probably wouldn't, due to the same reason (only can get with males at certain times, so why not with other females to stave off frustration?) as long as they do have children when they can
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    For miqote, due to them being so rare, gay males would be considered bad, just from a survival point of view.
    This is probably the big one, in-universe. It's ironic in that male Miqo'te appeal mainly to gay males (/wave) and females who want to RP them with other male PCs.

    Personally, I find the idea that the only two choices are "openly" gay and "closeted" to be itself rather ignorant, as if there's some flag that's supposed to mark you as "gay" to people you run into on the street and not having it means you're somehow in denial. Reality is slightly more complex, so it's safe to say Eorzea is the same way. Aside from a few baseless (and angsty!) head-canons, though, it's not the sort of thing that would have much impact on most plots even if they did mention it.
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  5. #35
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    While not exactly what the OP was asking about. It can be at least inferred that the Xaela tribes below engage in same-sex relationships

    Borlaaq :A tribe of all women. While breeding with men from other tribes is allowed, if a male is born into the tribe, he is given up within a year of birth.

    Buduga: An all-male tribe which only increases its ranks through battle and kidnapping.
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  6. #36
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    maybe "Morgayne" :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    For the most part...there is no indication for most NPCs what their sexual orientation is, since that has no real bearing on the story. Yes, there is that NPC pair from the Wanderer's Palace HM side-story (who were, incidentally, prosecuted more because they were interracial than gay), and the two in the Whitebrim barracks. And yes, Haurcefaunt, who is most likely bi.

    Its just not important. Unless its stated otherwise, any NPC could be any orientation; we just don't know, because it (usually) doesn't matter in the setting.
    Fairly certain we can confirm Thancred is Heterosexual considering how he seems to prefure anyone who's female.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Fairly certain we can confirm Thancred is Heterosexual considering how he seems to prefure anyone who's female.
    He has some pretty risque lines with a female WoL, are they the same with a male?

    I'd say he might be Bisexual, but in a similar way Haurchefant is - they're Warrior of Light-sexual rather than actively being interested in the same sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    He has some pretty risque lines with a female WoL, are they the same with a male?

    I'd say he might be Bisexual, but in a similar way Haurchefant is - they're Warrior of Light-sexual rather than actively being interested in the same sex.
    No, I can confirm it a "Brother in Arms" speach pattern. More teasing about who was showing off and "I could have done that/better if" kinda comments. Where as Minfilia definitely has dialog that could be romantically interpreted with Male PCs, no confirmation on female.

    But unlike Lord H, Thancred doesn't openly hit on Male PCs, teasingly or otherwise.
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    Juyon Intoner
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    He has some pretty risque lines with a female WoL, are they the same with a male?

    I'd say he might be Bisexual, but in a similar way Haurchefant is - they're Warrior of Light-sexual rather than actively being interested in the same sex.
    On a fresh male character starting in Ul'dah he seems pretty chill with males, though I think he IS a bit flirty with female WoLs by the time we hit Ifrit that I'm not seeing with the male WoL.

    Also off-topic, but you think the Ugund Xaela tribe would try and figure out a better path for the afterlife or something...
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