All open dungeons being converted into instances?

[kensredemption]

No. I would wager I am in the VAST majority, as no one likes staring at a loading screen

Speak for yourself, I don't mind staring at a loading screen. Hell, it gives me an excuse to actually stand up and go to the bathroom or get something to eat every once in awhile. Also, I'm finding it borderline blasphemous that you're even bothering to bring up WoW to compare it to XIV.

Don't get me wrong, I'd appreciate it if Square-Enix did something to make solo play much more progress-friendly, but I'd rather not have everything dumbed-down like it is in WoW when "skill" is dependent on what kind of gear the player possesses and what ultimately decides whether or not a player is accepted into a party/instance.

[Preypacer]

Wow isn't cross platform.

Console only single player RPGs don't need to load a billion different equipment configurations for every human player in the zone you are loading into, along with random monster data, etc. This has all been explained before so I'm not going to go into detail. But it's not the same.

Zone lines are better in FFXIV's situation. We already have zone lines, they are just wearing a disguise.

Actually we have invisible zone lines in the form of the long "loading zone" corridors that, frankly, take longer to get through than it does for a loading screen.

We also have actual zone lines when you're leaving one region into the other. So, at this point XIV has both.

Further... I've never quite understood why people are so against zone lines and argue so much for streaming/seamless worlds. It's not like in a seamless world people are suddenly running long distances on foot (mount or otherwise) because there's no zone lines. They're teleporting around... which requires a loading screen. They're taking flight-paths which either require a loading screen if it's instant travel, or are sitting on an auto-pathed mount if it's not.

Even in FFXI, the zones are large enough where it's not like you're hitting a zone line every 5 minutes except in a few very specific places.

I've always found all the ranting against zone lines to be a bit over-baked, personally.

Edit: That's not to say I don't understand the appeal of a fully seamless world where areas blend more or less smoothly into each other... It gives that sense of continuity. I can appreciate that. I just don't know why so many people seem to argue for them as the solution to loading screens... considering loading screens are just as prevalent in seamless worlds, due to the reasons I mentioned above. It just seems a bit odd to me.

[Jynx]

WoW does it.

Wake me up when This



Looks something like this.

Then we can talk about them still having "Seamless" zone transitions.

[Payadopa]

If I don't have to shout for everything for hours on end as in XI... good!

The more chances of assembling a full party, the better.

I also don't mind loading screens. It's not like you'll be zoning like every 2 minutes.

[kensredemption]

Wake me up when This...Looks something like this...Then we can talk about them still having "Seamless" zone transitions.

That probably won't happen until Green Day releases another shoddy album. D:

[ellohwell]

Wake me up when This

Looks something like this.

Then we can talk about them still having "Seamless" zone transitions.

Archeage has no zonelines. Blade and Soul has seamless zone transitions too, if I remember rightly. So it's not impossible for games with good graphics to be seamless.

[Issac]

Bringing this thread back up.

Q: All of the dungeons will become instanced, but does this mean all public dungeons disappear?
A: For the ones that require a certain amount of people, I think it would be better to be closed off, so please assume that this means they will basically disappear. However, there will still be beastman strongholds in the open fields.

This confuses me a bit. But if I'm reading right, open dungeons will no longer exist in 2.0?

[Seirra_Lanzce]

Archeage has no zonelines. Blade and Soul has seamless zone transitions too, if I remember rightly. So it's not impossible for games with good graphics to be seamless.

Ofcourse is not impossible to be seamless, but let's face facts, PS3.

unless someone here who play DCUO on a PS3 can clarify me is a Seamless world, SE done something wrong lol.

[Djeserit]

Bringing this thread back up.



This confuses me a bit. But if I'm reading right, open dungeons will no longer exist in 2.0?

The way I read it was, any dungeon that has a required number of people to enter, will stay "closed off" from the rest of the world, thus instanced. The rest will remain as-is. I hope my analysis is at least close to accurate.

[Issac]

The way I read it was, any dungeon that has a required number of people to enter, will stay "closed off" from the rest of the world, thus instanced. The rest will remain as-is. I hope my analysis is at least close to accurate.

Me too ~_~