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    Zosia Twinrova
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    Quote Originally Posted by melisande View Post
    Dude, did you know in 2.x there was end game as well that wasn't savage? I cleared all of T1- 13 (pre nerf) without the use of a third party program just fine. Just because i haven't beat the current end game savage (no desire) makes me an 'uninformed' player is absolute nonsense. I have played this game since the beginning of 1.0, i have probably seen and done more endgame content than you have, but that would just be a baseless assumption like yours.
    I don't ignore the point that to *some* people parsers can help tighten up their rotation.In *my* experience, a parser has not ever helped me tighten up my rotation regarding end game content, and anything i "tightened up" in end game was straight up my own intuition (when is best time to pop CD's, maximize damage output during x phase, y phase, z phase.)
    Where in my post did i ever talk about "non hurt feelings''?
    You couldn't tell me - because i never did.
    The argument that you can not improve your DPS without the use of a 3rd party program is actually silly, and you can honestly tighten any rotation just by simply playing the game more.
    I really don't give a flying F what you did in 2.0. You have dreadwyrm gear so I already assumed you have coil experience, but coil was an easy raid in contrast to alex savage. You might as well tell me you cleared ifrit HM and that makes you an expert on end game content. Savage is a different creature than coils and it REQUIRES a parser when your group's first a4s clear, no matter which group you are, requires all eight people to squeeze out every last drop of dps possible. That first clear will come down to fractions of a percent. If you don't do alex savage, you are speaking from a perspective that does not have experience in the current end game meta. I bolded the part of your rebuttal that PROVES you are speaking from ignorance. Go get your feet wet in a3s and a4s and come and tell me that this game does not need parsers. I don't have problems with anyone having opinions on parsers, but your opinion is just terrible since you have no current raid experiences to back up your claims. Your advice of "just go in and practice, you will get good eventually" is some of the most ridiculous raid advice I have ever seen.

    So, if you don't care about hurt feelins, why are you against an official in-game parser?

    PS4 players who raid savage alex don't have the same tool kit as PC players. Simple as that. Any retort against that is just propping up a second class system for console players.

    Also, this whole "I don't need a parser to improve my gameplay" is just a terrible attitude. If you're really a skilled high end player, you would understand the purpose of a parser. You might be fine playing at 85% of your class potential, but I am not fine with settling on my performance. I rather use a parser to play at a higher level than convince myself that I am some *talented* player riding on my achievements from an easier raid that is an expansion old now. You either use a parser and improve the minutia of your rotation (see monks using fracture), do the math by hand (doubt it), or just make assumptions and hope that your rotation is performing at 100% of it's potential (which it is not if you are making such assumptions).\

    Quote Originally Posted by Sardonia View Post
    So you would be ok if we had an official parser but SE kept their current policy that you cannot talk or kick people for DPS reasons.? That is exactly what he mentioned by SE keeping their current policy if a official parser was given. If that is the case great all for it but you and I both know that is not what a lot of people want the parser for.
    There is no policy against kicking a player for poor dps, you just can't harass them over it.

    People are allowed to run their groups how ever they wish as long as they are not harassing people or being vitriolic. Rejection from a group =/= harassment.

    I am fine with there being an official parser and people being punished for harrassing players over their dps. That would include rude comments, public name shaming, and any other behavior you could be banned for now.
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    Last edited by zosia; 12-04-2015 at 06:03 AM.