Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
Go to ff11 forums, look up "gear-swap" That is the type of community you pro parser are asking for and IS whats going to happen.

All this bickering is just a rehash from ff11 and the "gear swap" mentality. I do not want DF leveling to be turned into exclusionary "top dps or gtfo" You guys keep claiming it doesn't happen, but it did in FF11 I couldn't level or do non end game content on a fresh character w/o some jack arse insulting me calling me human filth for not gear swaping.

it was a trend started in 2010-2011 where players (mainly pc due to plug ins) would create multiple gear sets for each individual attack to get the most out of it. At first it was just an endgame thing, then it trickled down to even leveling. If u was a ps2/360 player and had nmo macro room or will to get ALL the gear required, you was called a bad player, lazy, human filth. Told to quict because you wasdted everyones time.
You're comparing apples and oranges here.

Gearswap / Windower provided players with the means to do the 12-14 equipment swaps required to maximize their potential in combat at the touch of a button. This was a huge differences compared to how a PS2/360/non-modded-PC player would need to hit 2-3 macros for a gear change then hit them with a weaponskill / spell for maximum effect. This became so mainstream that S-E had to eventually introduce their own "set save" mechanic that can be called upon by a macro to do the same thing and even built their fights around challenging these tiers of players. In short, gearswap / windower was a performance enhancing tool that became mainstream due to optimization.

A parser is just a tool to help players calculate their raw numbers and see what they can do to improve themselves. A parser does not affect the performance of the player directly whereas Gearswap / Windower does in FFXI. You won't see that kind of degradation of player here because parser is a performance measuring tool, not a performance enhancing tool.

Jerks will continue to be jerks regardless if they have access to a parser or not.


Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
I play on PS4 and main smn. I have never been parsed willingly and don't care to be parsed. I dont need to know numbers to know how good i am doing. Just attack a mob solo (like the b rank hunt or striking dummy) and watch how fast it dies. if it takes a long time, I know i need to improve my dps. I dont need to see the parser data to know if my dps is good or not.

Devs acknowledge that raiders are using parsers, but that doesnt mean it is not reportable.

and harassment like what azazura got (I was there for most of it) was uncalled for. since we transfered to tonberry, there has been very little if any harassment. Before we transfered, we ran an AK run (her first run and she was pld) and she didnt know what mobs could be ignored and what mobs couldnt. she just pulled (small pulls) and we started out killing everything in the dungeon. the WHM ended up going ahead and pulling the next set of unskippable mobs while me and the pther dps were helping azazura kill the ones she pulled. I wasnt complaining...free gil (lol). the WHM almost died cause they pulled the next set of mobs and blamed her for that cause she pulled skippable mobs and didnt know they could be skipped, and insulted her because of it. we eventually kicked the whm just to have them rejoin again in-progress (glad they made it impossible to do that). and the WHM was complaining cause she was pulling small and relatively slow cause she didnt know what could be skipped. the WHM not only insulted her as a player, but also personal insults which is never called for in an online game. and that wasnt the first time stuff like that happened to her. it also happened while she was lving.
That's unfortunate that that had happened and I'm sorry that it did. Unfortunately, there will be people in this community who are like that and there's not much you can do about that but grit your teeth and hope karma kicks them in the tail.

While I've personally had my fair share of stupid people to deal with (and funny enough, the worst person I've had to deal with also came from AK), I've only had one incident where parsing was used to harassment in the 2+ years I've played (and from my understanding that person got GM'd to death).

The tool won't suddenly make player's have a terrible attitude. It's the player's with terrible attitude that will always have a terrible attitude.