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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
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    I really wish people like yourself would stop speaking for people like myself. edit inc

    I'm a PS4 player, when I first started this game I knew nothing of parsers. My first FC was pretty much a safezone free company, this is what I came to realise as I progressed further and further into the game. There were people there who were quite frankly terrible players, but everyone was clapped, cheered and told don't worry your get the hang of it!

    While this is all nice, I soon realised if I ever wanted to venture into the world of primal extremes and coil I would have to go about this through the PF. As I practiced, I soon became aware of parsers. It was not till however during a T9 attempt to clear run that I witnessed someone use a parser to call someone a bad player, a fellow fc member. His exact words were, "you did 200dps that run, I really think you need to take a look at your rotation. That's very poor dps for a <insert ilevel brd>.

    It was here, where I started asking for my dps each run and once I had finally got into final coil the fear set in.

    I was very pre emptive to join clear parties after learning all the mechanics, and infact just beating the T10 for the first time didn't take that fear away. I was worried that if I joined a farm party my dps wouldn't be enough or acceptable to them, soo after a few days I just took the plunge and went in.

    Each run, I would state I'm a PS4 player and I have no access to dps figures, if a PC would be so kind to either tell me after this run what I did or during that would be great. VIRTUALLY every run, another player would then reply with could I also know my dps too please?

    Not once have I been abused by another player because of my dps, I still ask to this day.

    I do have friends that I can use for finding my dps out on dummies but this isn't enough, I can't see my dps in a raid all I know is my dummy dps is pretty sweet.

    The only way to beat the fear is to jump right in, there's a whole community out there that has no access to a parser at all (ps3, ps4) we can't just download something we rely on PC players to tell us how we are doing.

    There are plenty of PC players who actively help out on rotations and teach players how to play a job.
    If the console community had the same tools, we could do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupiduglytaru View Post
    I really wish people like yourself would stop speaking for people like myself.
    Whoever said I was speaking for you? I was speaking for people I know in-game and in-real life, who fear harassment. Is that OK with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Whoever said I was speaking for you? I was speaking for people I know in-game and in-real life, who fear harassment. Is that OK with you?
    You were expressing my feelings and I'm sure I'm not alone. I give you a lot of credit to take the time to eloquently express yours. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Fears are based in realities. It's an emotional response to perceived threats, we're human beings, we can't help but feel things. Some will fear, some will laugh, some will not care.
    Irrational fears would like to say hello ^_^/

    Guess a fear in aliens, bigfoot, and the Illuminati must be based in reality somehow!

    Clearly we all have to moderate how we feel about things, and controlling fears is something that humans must do throughout life. Unfortunately, simply pointing out that fears exist in the mind as an emotional response does nothing to allay those fears. If it did, none of us would be scared of anything.
    Thank goodness we have something that will remedy those "fears"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamemaster

    http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...=68216&id=5382

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...t_report_work/

    havent heard of this particular issue....but yes, the harrassment reporting is actually viable and they WILL perform an invesitgation. just make sure you save the chat log!
    I've had nothing but positive experiences with GMs so far in this game, the few times I've reported people for harassment they've always gotten back to me very quickly and listened patiently.
    Yeah, it does. Sometimes. For lamest reasons. That's se support for you. Quite a few ppl were banned over parsers cause they used data to harass ppl (as in kick from party) for $%@&ty dps.
    There was one time I was in a CT group with an acquaintance and he was being incredibly rude and trollsy in alliance chat. Apparently a lot of people filed reports on him because he was thrown in Mordion Gaol for a nice GM chat a few hours after. Seems to me those sorts of reports get responded to quite quickly.
    Customer Service for account issues, SE is sort of bollocks.
    Ingame GM issues though they don't seem to f$%# around. I've mentioned it before but when people were farming CT for Myth, we had a person from my server trolling an entire alliance by pulling the bone dragon out of the area and forcing a lock out glitch. He got away with it the first time, then when he appeared in CT again in my group he started to run at the bone dragon and suddenly popped out of the instance, almost like he DC'd but he was still in the party. Was crazy. Apparently the GMs got a hold of them since a ton of people reported.
    All from that thread since I know you are just eye-balling anything longer than a page.

    This concern of POTENTIAL parser abuse is highly irrational. We have a game environment already suited to ban harassers and trouble makers. Now tell me on the lalafel doll where the parser crowd hurt you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dante_V View Post
    Irrational fears are known as phobias.
    That does not change Kezy's points. Irrational or rational, phobia or not, some fears are not worth humoring. The fear of parser harassment is an irrational fear. Even if it does happen, players have a path of recourse they can follow.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    You were expressing my feelings and I'm sure I'm not alone. I give you a lot of credit to take the time to eloquently express yours. Thank you.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUjTEwaFI2I
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    Last edited by zosia; 12-02-2015 at 06:41 AM.

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    I would like to sincerely apologize to OP...

    You simply asked for a tool to help monitor YOUR own dps, and no one else's so that you are not the burden for your savage group and look how quickly your thread was turned into a argument on topics that have little to nothing to do with your simple request...

    I do hope that one of your PC friends can help you out and good luck to you on your raiding.
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    Man you can't even see the forest through the trees. The OP is cleary a CIA plant. Put here the push the pro-parser agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    I would like to sincerely apologize to OP...

    You simply asked for a tool to help monitor YOUR own dps, and no one else's so that you are not the burden for your savage group and look how quickly your thread was turned into a argument on topics that have little to nothing to do with your simple request...

    I do hope that one of your PC friends can help you out and good luck to you on your raiding.
    The irony not withstanding of course is that he was almost instantly harassed by anti-parser people who then brought up arguments about fearing harassment and a whole bunch of other anecdotal reasons why he shouldn't be able to see his own performance numbers.

    This game desperately needs a parser. A parser doesn't encourage anything. It is a tool.
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    I don't really know why anyone should fear harrasment tbh. If someone starts talking down on me I will be more than happy to welcome them on my blacklist.
    If I look back I've been kicked / yelled at for alot of stupid/funny reasons. the funniest was that scholar complained my gear was to low (leveling my warrior) so he had to actually heal me instead of just standing there letting his fairy do the job

    Just shake it off, ignore the i**ots and move on. Try to do your best and noone will get mad at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Whoever said I was speaking for you? I was speaking for people I know in-game and in-real life, who fear harassment. Is that OK with you?

    What has anything you've said got to do with the fact I asked for a PERSONAL parser? I mentioned it in the title, in my post and again in the original replies to my post. You've gone off your nut fighting everyone about harassment and other rubbish that has almost nothing to do with my original post.
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