Absolute frustration at not being able to see my own DPS (ps4)

[Toguro]

There are a lot of PC players but there are also A LOT of PSN guys coming along. And that is my main problem. Not with parsers, but the people they will be given to.

I'm guilty of the mentality too. When I saw people only doing 20k in a high-level instance, I was like "Wow lol. This guy SUUCKS! How is he only doing this much damage!?" in my head. I never did go in chat with those thoughts though at least.

[Boss_Koivula]

You are forgetting that DCUO was free for PSN+ owners. Every kid with an PSN account in the world had an access to the game for free. Not having to pay for anything makes the enviroment more hostile, since if you do get banned from the game, the only investment lost was your own character. You cant compare f2p game to b2p game with a monthly sub.

[Toguro]

You are forgetting that DCUO was free for PSN+ owners. Every kid with an PSN account in the world had an access to the game for free. Not having to pay for anything makes the enviroment more hostile, since if you do get banned from the game, the only investment lost was your own character. You cant compare f2p game to b2p game with a monthly sub.

What kind of kid? 16-year old?. I'm talking about the older subbed legendary players that were mostly like this

[ChocoFeru]

Implement a parser ONLY on dummies, so people can test their rotations.
Also make a Dummy with same evasion caps as Raid bosses.

I wouldn't implement it in real-time everywhere, because it will give more troubles. People will kick the lower DPS always, even if he was dead because the healer or tank did a bad job.


You should know that queuing on Dutyfinder will bring you unexperienced players. I know it, and that's why when I queue with randoms I just have patience and understand that there may be casuals and I have no right to curse them. The best thing I can do is tell them how to do a rotation or how to do a boss.

[Critical-Limit]

Let

First let me say I'm sorry for your depression I have a close friend who suffers from it as well.

I understand the chemicals in your brain can make you randomly sad. Not by choice, my friend said sometimes he feels sad even when nothing bad is even happening.

So I understand. But obviously that's a special case as even if you adopt the right mindset you'll still occasionally feel sad for no reason or nervous in high stakes.

Im not doubting you Im not a doctor, but do you criticize yourself that harshly over a simple math mistake? Or if you trip, or even mistakes you find funny? Probably not, you feel extra in this game because you have a goal. You want to be good, you dont want to let people relying on you down.

These things increase the likely hood of entering a self loathing state.

Thank you for sharing and not using it to debunk that being embarrassed is a person own fault or not fault if you suffer depression.

[Raffounz]

Run with a PC player with parser and upload this to famous site for dps rankings; analayze your results with others and study world best rotations in real fights

[KaitlanKela]

I've been thinking about this.


A parser where only you can see your numbers. Make asking for other people's numbers a punishable offense under harassment.

However, the parser is connected to a lodestone "app" similar to what's going right now for PVP rankings. However, the app only displays the "average" and "high" numbers for each class for each boss encounter. Say I'm a DRG playing T5, and my personal parser gives me 500, but then I go online and I see that the average is 900 and the high is 1250 for a DRG on this fight (just throwing example numbers out). Time to go to the internet for some help. But if my number's 1000, I'm doing better than average and I probably am contributing to the group in a positive way.

Also, for the critique of my cases analysis about the silent kicks. Already happening. Hell, I think it might happen less WITH a parser because right now it's easy to falsely accuse people by mistake when they may or may not be the problem. And if someone kicks you for putting out numbers that are not 100% ++ perfect, you're probably better off anyway. Players like that are toxic even if they let you stay. However, under my proposed idea above, this wouldn't be a problem either. The player preforming at 1000 knows that he's contributing, and it's better than average. It's not the BEST but it's close enough to where any @ssholes prolly couldn't tell or at least the couldn't tell WHO it was. And if they're using a third-party parser on a PC and they get the 1000 number, at least now there's a benchmark. They're more likely to say, that's better than average and pretty close to the max, instead of potentially kicking you for having really impossible exceptions, like 'why aren't they doing 1500'!?!?!

[DenebPunkin]

This is probably the ONE thing that Yoshi P has been pretty good about I think. In that... "as long as you dont talk about it in game or let others know you are using a third party Parser, cool. BUT I WILL NOT EVER add an ingame parser myself". He is absolutely right and he most likely speaks and determines this based on personal experience. In game parsers will 100% be used more for negativity then positivity. This is a classic case of using apparent bias to try to only highlight the very limited "positive" outcomes of an ingame parser when the negative ones very clearly outnumber the minuscule "positivity" that an ingame parser "might" bring...to an extreme overly sensitive player base.

[Odett]

This is probably the ONE thing that Yoshi P has been pretty good about I think. In that... "as long as you dont talk about it in game or let others know you are using a third party Parser, cool. BUT I WILL NOT EVER add an ingame parser myself". He is absolutely right and he most likely speaks and determines this based on personal experience. In game parsers will 100% be used more for negativity then positivity. This is a classic case of using apparent bias to try to only highlight the very limited "positive" outcomes of an ingame parser when the negative ones very clearly outnumber the minuscule "positivity" that an ingame parser "might" bring...to an extreme overly sensitive player base.

Except that parsers already exist. What TC is asking for is a way to see their numbers so they don't have to bother their PC friends every time they want to test their numbers, because in that sense, we console players are at a disadvantage. People have stated the positive outcomes of a parser again and again so I will not do that in this reply. Parsers aren't going to turn people evil or anything, and that is such a misconception that so many players have. Parsers are a tool that have many positive outcomes, jerks will be jerks, parsers or not. You will still be able to report players for harassment like you do now, that will not change.

What a mass access to parsers WILL cause, that some players might not like, is bring about a certain level of transparency to DPS players, but again, why should that not be implemented? Tanks have responsibilities and it's clear when they're underperforming, and same goes with healers. The DPS role is not something you go to when you want to be absolved of duties. DPS checks are a thing and DPS players that are not playing at the level that they should, should be addressed, like tanks and healers already are.

[DenebPunkin]

Except that parsers already exist. What TC is asking for is a way to see their numbers so they don't have to bother their PC friends every time they want to test their numbers, because in that sense, we console players are at a disadvantage. People have stated the positive outcomes of a parser again and again so I will not do that in this reply. Parsers aren't going to turn people evil or anything, and that is such a misconception that so many players have. Parsers are a tool that have many positive outcomes, jerks will be jerks, parsers or not. You will still be able to report players for harassment like you do now, that will not change.

What a mass access to parsers WILL cause, that some players might not like, is bring about a certain level of transparency to DPS players, but again, why should that not be implemented? Tanks have responsibilities and it's clear when they're underperforming, and same goes with healers. The DPS role is not something you go to when you want to be absolved of duties. DPS checks are a thing and DPS players that are not playing at the level that they should, should be addressed, like tanks and healers already are.

People have stated a positive outcome.. not positive outcomes. The negatives FAR outweigh any "positive" it "may" bring to the table. You want DPS to get better, have Yoshi P force them to go through tutorials that show them the simple rotations, the positionals required and the weaving of skills between other skills. To assume that by adding an app that throws numbers out will somehow magically make all DPSers better is a false conclusion. And as you said, jerks will be jerks.. and now you are giving these jerks more tools to be even bigger jerks with.